• The COVID mask game on Steam ("Pulling no Punches")
  • Lula winning
  • That beautiful angel of a man stabbing Bolsonaro in the neck and making him literally eat shit for 4 years straight
  • This: https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status/1587130556856270848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1587130556856270848%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Why are Brazilian leftists so based? What is in the water over there?

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Sucks but a few reality checks are needed here:

    1- Lula won in the North and Northeast regions with the support of the majority POC and poorest population there.

    In the industrial/agricultural South and Southeast regions Bolsonaro won by another landslide 55-45, same as the first time btw.

    The Brazilian congress is now also the most reactionary in decades. What exists of the Brazilian left was able to rally around Lula but that didn't translate into a general rally around the PT or other left candidates.

    The western left must stop taking Lula's victory as any indication Brazil is turning left or as a reflection of the general population. At most it is a reflection of internal demographics and the remnants of the old ideological basis. This should be almost a sticky somewhere whenever people start discussing Brazil.

    Brazilian neoliberalism destroyed the left in the urban centers but material conditions along with social differences including racism and discrimination made it harder for neoliberalism to change much in the other areas of the country. This only works as long as Lula is alive. Literally, I don't want to be a doomer but if you really want to know the subject of the post-Lula left is pretty sad and controversial.

    Lula was a union leader and an industrial worker. The Brazilian left was built on this type of pro-union worker movements some of them behind the big state corporations Petrobras, the strength of which came from the rapid industrialization of the Southeast region.

    Sadly though If you look back 20 years you'll find Lula's stronghold among industrial workers in SP is completely gone now with a couple of exceptions SP is entirely dominated by right wingers and neoliberals.

    Also Alckmin as a VP is a hot subject, a neoliberal ghoul and one of his literal archenemies lol. Maybe it was necessary to rally and secure the capitalist class support, but it is certainly the mother of all deals with the devil.

    2- Adelio Bispo, Bolsonaro's attacker was diagnosed as mentally ill, he didn't do it based on ideology or any leftist motivation.

    I wont go into too much details but the subject of radicalization talked about by western leftists is as much taboo in Brazil as in the west. Carrying guns and doing an adventurism is strictly the realm of criminals and drug dealers, you are extremely guilty by association for advocating arming the working class. Besides Bolsonarism got there first anyway, advocating for relaxing gun control.

    Yes this is also sadly in sharp contrast with movements such as the agrarian land reform movement which is pretty based and violent(the MST).

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Well the post Lula left may end up being more radicalized or just fold to fascism, the next 4 years and the rest leading to his death will be a definitive mark for the whole South America continent really, yes it is slowly getting worse but it is far from set in stone. Historical turn around against neoliberalism in LA or bump in the road down towards the climate change/eco fascist abyss of the 2050's etc.

  • Redcuban1959 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Why are Brazilian leftists so based? What is in the water over there?

    I would say that all leftists are based. But I believe that in Brazil there are many reasons. First, communism and its various forms were very popular during the 1920s - 1960s, then Lula popularized his version of unionism and syndicalism in the late 1970s. Second, because the best presidents were center-left and left-wing presidents, Brazil had its own state ideology similar to Left Peronism called Trabalhismo. Third, because right-wing governments were openly hostile to workers, minorities, and radicals, anyone who was against the oligarchy was its enemy.

  • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I wonder if Bolsonaro was always doomed after Lula was released or if that stabbing directly led to his downfall as I have always kinda suspected that Trump contracting covid before the election was what cost it for him.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      2 years ago

      From what i understand and heard, Bolsonaro thought it was good that Lula would be his rival. Because he thought that anti-Lula sentiment was bigger than the Anti-Bolsonaro sentiment.

      I think he was doomed after refusing to talk to Biden, calling him a fake president and a socialist, refusing to talk to Anthony Bliken when Anthony offered to help with the election. He then changed his mind and asked for Biden's help in the elections, saying that a possible administration by former President Lula would be against US interests. When Biden refused, he got angry and decided to side with Putin for no reason. Which is funny since Putin was one of the only heads of state to recognize the 2016 coup against President Dilma.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I used to wonder if Brazil had leftists left once upon a time. I'm glad to be wrong there. :bloomer:

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Truck attack against Bolsonaro supporters in Santa Catarina

    I have no choice but to support lifted trucks now