Fair enough. My point wasnt meant to say 4chan isnt bad. I think most people even many people who use/used 4chan would agree that its bad for various reasons. Its just that Kiwifarms whole purpose from the beginning was to serve as a platform that harrasses or doxes people. You could maybe make a 4chan like website that is wholesome and good....you couldnt do that with Kiwifarms.