• Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      What if I'm against American Imperialism, NATO expansionism, and red/brown alliances?

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        2 years ago

        American fascists, such as misanthropic or the atomwaffen's "National Socialist Order", nor are the fascist-infiltrated paramilitary groups aren't organizing anti-war protests, they're either participating in the war and getting blown up right now, or agitating for the war, or attempting to accelerate the american collapse through terrorist actions.

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I'm done with this. If you and your org think this is the proper course, I'm not going to talk you out of it and you're not going to talk me into it. I'll tell you this, seeing who you all are willing to align with and who your twitter is platforming, I certainly don't feel like PCUSA are my allies right now.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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            2 years ago

            You're more than entitled to your very respectable opinion. So as long as you're against American imperialism and against NATO intervention in the Ukraine War then I'll personally consider you an ally on the issue.

            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              I would gladly burn this country to the ground and live in relative poverty if it would end American imperialism and I could live in peace with the woman I love.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                2 years ago

                While I'd much rather see an America in the outlines of Z Foster's 'Towards Soviet America' with some edits for modern circumstances, assuming that's not a possible path towards world socialism and peace, I genuinely hope your wish comes true.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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            2 years ago

            to be blunt, unideological right-wing hogs who're usually herded by reactionary sheepdogs towards interests of empire.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                2 years ago

                I agree with you. But that's down the road by roughly two years.

                Assuming that two years down the road that the ukraine war concludes, biden loses the whitehouse and trump or depantspiss wins. It would be inevitable that the hogs would go out to brunch and the ghouls would start ratcheting up the war machine with China in the cross-sights.

                At this assumed future point, I would pivot towards agitating among the disempowered democrats to being anti-war against the republican government, seeing how it's easily more fertile grounds historically.

                  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                    2 years ago

                    its more than long enough.

                    Libs and hogs, popularly speaking (as in ground level and not ghoul level) constantly operate in mirrored opposition to each other depending on who's ghouls are cranking the lever for the next 4 years. The only notable time there's been any noticeable change to the undercurrents is in the brief periods where the lever of power is handed off to the other party's ghouls and you see a subsequent fragmenting of the outer edges of the popular sides as one kicks the other out of the brunch seat and starts eating while the ousted one starts griping about not getting their treats. That fragmenting that occurs is the act of radicalization of the most politically conscious people that were within the status quo field that both libs and hogs jostle in. You can see this in how Bernie losing yet Biden winning resulted in the embryo of socialism emerging into the common parlance of America once more after decades of red-baiting.

                    Simply put, Libs only cling to liberalism until it starts stomping on their face while shouting "MODS! MODS!"

                    Also, on your note about hogs. We're capital C Communists, We literally champion Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che, Sankara, Bishop, Foster, Hall, Il-Sung, Jong-Il, and all the countless other heroes of the people they consider 'scary people'. I'm pretty sure that's much more scary, since they're actively financing Ukraine fascism.

                    Also transmission belts are a thing.

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                    1 month ago

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        • Gimasag [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          That’s not true, I am organizing with ANSWER Coalition, The People’s Forum, PSL, CodePink in a principled event to demand peace. Not a bunch of fascists, libertarians, and patsoc grifters.

        • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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          2 years ago

          So lets get this straight for everyone reading this,

          This persons response to the fact that "red/brown alliances are bad" is "nothing can be done without allying with fascists".

          So in other words, our hero here want a repeat of what happened to all the communists, bless their hearts, who tried a red/brown alliance in naziland g*rmany during the mid 20th century.

          What a fucking genius.

          amerikkka-clap amerikkka-clap amerikkka-clap

          • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            doing something automatically being better than doing nothing is some liberal brainworms that some of us apparently still need to work on

            don't pour water on a grease fire y'know?

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I'd rather be alone in my house than not alone in my house with Tucker Carlson.

            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              If the only option to defeat fascists is to align with different fascists, then it's time for the nukes to fly.

              • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                The fascists are whoever is currently in charge of the globe spanning fascist empire, and it is currently the Liberal Democrats acting most fascistic with their warmongering

                Quite convenient of you, a comfortable member of the core, to absolve yourself of all responsibility and demand total destruction of everything instead of putting in any effort in uncomfortable coalition building with those who are aligned with your interests currently

                  • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    And it's the petty sore losers of the core who feel their power slipping that demand the nuclear war, you warmonger

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  the empire is liberal. It really diminishes the danger of fascism to just call everyone right wing a fascist.

                  Fascism isn't just when you're racist violently

                  • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Wrong. The American empire is fascist to everyone at the business end of their gun. You are just on the good side of it, so you don’t care.

                    Democrats are fascists. America is fascist.

                • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  it is currently the Liberal Democrats acting most fascistic with their warmongering

                  Sorry but this is just straight up not true. Not because liberals aren't bloodthirsty imperialists, but because right wingers are currently talking about "a throne of Chinese skulls" while gearing up to do Krystalnacht 2 on trans people. There is no cooperation there that doesn't end in mass graves.

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I mean, unless you're signatory to the Grand Red/Brown Alliance Treaty all you're doing is giving brown shirts the power to alter your policy choices by doing whatever they want.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        2 years ago

        Let me, for this comment, speak officially as a cadre of the party. This is purely my opinion and perspective that is resulting from my own personal experience, that is to say what I've seen and what I've heard.

        The Party of Communists USA is unilaterally against American Imperialism and any attempt of NATO expansionism into Ukraine. On this critical, and singular, issue that can lead to a world war and nuclear extinction - we have cooperated or participated with any political organization that has this goal as well. This means that if there is a pan-left united front in California that is primarily organized by Trotskyite parties that is organizing anti-war protests, which there is, then PCUSA will participate in coalition to grow the west coast anti-war sentiments, which it has. This means if PSL was organizing an anti-war protest on the east coast against further funding of the Ukraine War and encourages everyone to come and march with them, which they did, then PCUSA will join their protest event and help agitate against the war with them other groups, which it has. If a because by the circumstance of a blue ghoul is in the white house causing a war leads a bunch of hogs and burned out bernie bros to organize an anti-war rally, then any members of PCUSA around there may go there to educate and agitate the people that go there to adopt more anti-war and anti-fascist positions than whatever's planned to be said there.

        Secondly, and this is still with my cadre hat on, neither the politburo nor the central committee has made any decision on this because thats a completely irrelevant topic of discussion that would waste valuable time. All clubs can reserve their opinions on the topic and can choose what actions they wish to take to further accomplish their tasks, be that focusing on anti-war agitation, researching historical documents to compile books, entering club members into workplaces with the purpose of unionizing them, doing agitprop art projects, or generally vibing if they're a sole member in an isolated area.

        If you have any follow-up questions, or witty comments feel free to state them, be they general or official

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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            2 years ago

            Official hat on, I'll forward your comment to the Social Media Department. the split of the ultra-left faction hit the SMD the hardest since all of the splitters were terminally online leftists that manned our internet stuff, which is a shame since they were quite good at it.

            And since you tacked on that edit, I'll add that insofar as I am aware on the west coast, when the CPI leadership dissolved itself on the east coast then Maupin undissolved CPI, the west coast CPI split between a few maupin loyalists and quite a few more people that wanted to wash their hands of the group and decided to do their own thing. The group that decided to go their own way are a portion of the pan-left anti-war group ran by Trotskyites and by proximity are the only, formerly associated, 'maupinite' group the party has worked indirectly with since the very fun revelation about his behavior was revealed.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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                2 years ago

                Official hat on, you're welcome. It can take months for any changes to departments by their membership bodies. Additionally it also depends on the individuals composing the collective. An example of this would be that a lot of people would be more affable to the work done by the party LGBT committee (they're working on translating and compiling works of Magnus Hirschfeld) , or the party Animal Rights Committee (they're im-vegan ) and some people might not be affable towards other party committees.