• axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I keep telling people that whatever liberals claim about the DPRK, the USA would be much worse than that if we had Chinese or Russian artillery pointing across the Mexican border. Like there would be a general social expectation to worship American empire and mass arrests for suspected treason, even more than what already exists. Definitely mandatory military conscription. It would be the real life version of whatever wacky caricature of military dictatorship that liberals like to mock.

    The only difference is that even the liberal cartoon fantasy of the evil DPRK has sense enough to remain at a stalemate, never actually invading its neighbor. The USA is a mad beast who would immediately and clumsily strike an enemy in a bordering country, regardless of the consequences or how much of an advantage it would have.

    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Not to mention we only have "free speech" in the US because it isn't a threat to power at the present. In that scenario you gave, if those countries also funded groups that would use "free speech" to topple the government, Americans would completely end any "free speech" we have.

      • BowlingForDeez [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Alien and Sedition acts. US courts pretty immediately were in favor of limiting free speech for anti-war protesters.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        However, they would still fellate themselves over American freeze peach while doing it

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      If China was that powerful, how many Americans would simply become Chicoms because that's where all the money and the power was at?

      A China that had artillery on the Mexican border, guarantees half of Texas would be heavily invested in the economic consequences of that deployment. And therefore, you'd end up with a Donbas on the Rio Grande.

  • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    lmao I assumed he was just about to point out the hypocrisy, but it never happened

  • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    So if I'm in a conversation with friends and someone said something this stupid, there would be push-back. In DC circles, is it forbidden to point out hypocrisy? I know on :reddit-logo: you'd get drowned with claims of whataboutism, but is that a thing in professional circles as well? Also, I'd be :rat-salute-2: if I saw a Chinese carrier group sailing through the Santa Barbara channel.

    • BowlingForDeez [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They think American military presence is either a good thing or a neutral fact of life that can never be questioned. While China expanding it's naval capacity is unquestionably a bad thing. So in their mind it isn't hypocrisy because we're the good guys. We're protecting nations, they're encroaching on the sovereignty of others.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    i, for one, would whole-heartedly support an expansionist, imperialist CPC if only for the reason that it would probably be easier to become a citizen or at least some kind of territorial resident with right of abode inside their sphere.

    lol, ok probably that juice isn't worth the squeeze, but the list of principles i won't compromise to leave and never return to this crap is shrinking each week.

  • iridaniotter [she/her, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Oh it would be so horrible if Chinese officials met with pro-independence authorities in Hawai'i. That would be so bad and even less legitimate than what we do with Taiwan! Oh the horror! An independent Hawai'i! The fall of America! :porky-scared-flipped:

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Oh, I know this song!

    Imagine all the peoooppaaaalle, living in harmonyyyyyyyyy, ooh ooooh ooh ooh ohh! -John Lenin

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I greatly wish this was that world. 1:1 retribution gang