Image is of Wang Yi, Member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and Director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, delivering a speech at the Munich Security Conference in 2023.


China has put forward a quite general peace proposal, which I imagine is both for Ukraine and also meant to be a general guide for solving conflicts in the future, with 12 points. Unfortunately it has no lobsters, nor dragons of chaos.

These 12 points are, as follows: respect the sovereignty of all countries and all countries are equal; abandon Cold War mentalities; cease hostilities; resume peace talks; resolve humanitarian crises; protect civilians and POWs; keep nuclear power plants safe (what a jab!); reduce strategic risks (that is, nuclear war); facilitate grain exports; stop unilateral sanctions; keep industrial and supply chains stable - the economy is not a weapon; and promote post-conflict reconstruction.

TeleSUR goes into more depth on each point for those interested.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

Here is the archive of important pieces of analysis from throughout the war that we've collected.

February 27th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

February 28th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

March 1st's update is here on the site and here in the comments.

March 3rd's update is here in the comments.

March 4th's update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff

American anti-war rally on March 18th by left groups!

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are fairly brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. The Duran, of which he co-hosts, is where the chuddery really begins to spill out.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ Now rebranded as Battlefield Insights, they do infrequent posts on the conflict.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of the really big pro-Russian (except when they're being pessismistic, which is often) telegram channels focussing on the war. Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Any Western media outlet that is even vaguely liberal (and quite a few conservative ones too).

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    i think it'll be really funny if the West does the same blackout on all Chinese works like they did with Russia and banning books by like centuries-old Russian authors, such that the Art of War becomes "Chinese propaganda" that proves how the Han ethnicity is predisposed to warfare or some fucked up argument like that

    • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
      ·
      1 year ago

      There will be a frenzy to rename Chinese food. Just like how sauerkraut became liberty cabbage and french fries became freedom fries, they're going to start calling guotie "pot-stickers". :rage-cry:

      • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        they'll be calling it "taiwanese food" instead of chinese or some dumb shit like that

          • judgeholden
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            edit-2
            9 months ago

            deleted by creator

            • mkultrawide [any]
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              edit-2
              1 year ago

              It depends on the city. Smaller cities, it can depend on who moved there. Look for "braised pork belly" or "Mao style braised pork" or something along those lines. Pretty much any Hunanese restaurant should have it.

              Also that's not "generic Chinese" you are just describing Cantonese food.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
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        edit-2
        1 year ago

        further lathing: there is literally a 100% probability that if a war between China and Taiwan (+ America, probably) breaks out, the thing that dipshit redditors do where they make Tienanmen Square references to epically own China or try to get Chinese people disappeared (as if that was how it worked lmfao) is gonna accelerate to an unbelievable magnitude. there will be a mass campaign across the entire internet raising awareness of it, while quoting massively inflated figures of deaths under Mao. it'll be of equal, probably greater actually, magnitude to the gigantic tsunami of propaganda that washed over the internet in the days and weeks after Feb 24th 2022. every social media site will be unusable for months.

        you know that code thing where if you download it inside Russia, it fries your computer or something? they're gonna do that and they're gonna reference the hundreds, no, thousands, no, hundreds of thousands of people killed in Tienanmen Square as it deletes their files. America will try to airdrop Orwell's 1984 translated to Mandarin all over the country. there's gonna be hacking groups that display "anti-authoritarian" messages on public screens.

        we'll have to live through this all over again, and probably not that far in the future. we're gonna have a year long siege of Taipei or somewhere like that like Bakhmut that we have to cope through. the neverending series of wunderwaffen. the absolute certainty of the collapse of China's economy, which doesn't happen. the references to regime change. generals coming in and out.

        god fucking damn it. fuck.