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  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING OH MY GOD THATS THE REAL TITLE :peltier-laugh: :michael-laugh:

    :the-democrat: :volcel-kamala::biden-rember::obama-drone: :pete-eat: Look kids, it's the saviors of democracy! Why are you crying?

  • Wheaties [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    But I think some of it is poor behavior by adult progressives, many of whom now valorize depressive affect as a sign of political commitment.

    ???

    The thing about depression, though, is that it’s bad.

    fucking insight of the century there. careful you don't burn yourself, Mat

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      He seems to spend half of this hand-wringing that right-wing perspectives aren't being represented enough in the research.

      The most interesting bit of this is a quote from something someone else wrote:

      I [Jill Filipovic] am increasingly convinced that there are tremendously negative long-term consequences, especially to young people, coming from this reliance on the language of harm and accusations that things one finds offensive are “deeply problematic” or event violent. Just about everything researchers understand about resilience and mental well-being suggests that people who feel like they are the chief architects of their own life — to mix metaphors, that they captain their own ship, not that they are simply being tossed around by an uncontrollable ocean — are vastly better off than people whose default position is victimization, hurt, and a sense that life simply happens to them and they have no control over their response. That isn’t to say that people who experience victimization or trauma should just muscle through it, or that any individual can bootstraps their way into wellbeing. It is to say, though, that in some circumstances, it is a choice to process feelings of discomfort or even offense through the language of deep emotional, spiritual, or even physical wound, and choosing to do so may make you worse off. Leaning into the language of “harm” creates and reinforces feelings of harm, and while using that language may give a person some short-term power in progressive spaces, it’s pretty bad for most people’s long-term ability to regulate their emotions, to manage inevitable adversity, and to navigate a complicated world.

      • pinglun [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        That smells like anti-fragile, that concept by Stephen Pinker. The idea that hurting children makes them better. Hey Pinker, did you get that idea while you were on one of the dozens of flights you took on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express?

        • Wheaties [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I can see how it rings of that. There is a good point, though, that our tools for handling this can over-focus on the harm.

          Being alive means experiencing some kind of trauma. It's unavoidable. Part of being made of meat. Shit happens. Acknowledging harm, feeling it - not just bottling - is important. And doing so makes it easier to learn from, to figure out what to do next. Asking, "What shall I do next? What do I want to happen next? What shall I do if it happens again?" That's also important.

          It does seem like a lot of attention is put of the former importance and the latter importance gets a bit neglected.

  • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    So is it really true that in some objective sense, conservative views are flourishing and hegemonic?

    :SHUT-UP: :hasan-smash: :guts-rage:

  • NotErisma
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    1 year ago

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  • FoolishFool [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Gee whiz, it's almost like younger people are keenly aware how little hope there is for their futures.

    Also:

    Matty "1 Billion Americans" Yglesias

    Opinion disregarded.

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Three of the politics of depression paper’s authors are also co-authors on a newer paper arguing that “as efforts to increase policing and roll back criminal legal system reforms in major U.S. cities rise, the collateral consequences of increased criminalization remain critical to document” and looking at the idea that “criminalization may contribute to racial disparities in mental health.” Like most academics, they seem to be quite left-wing. If there were more Republicans working as professors, we’d probably balance out this line of inquiry with papers asking whether rising levels of shootings and homicides also contribute to racial disparities in mental health. But there aren't. So even when all the research being done is good, we primarily see research looking at the questions that progressives think are interesting.

    Maybe we're depressed because people like Matt Yglesias are paid 10 times as much as the people doing the actual goddam work to make bullshit observations like this one.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Fuckers will blame youth depression on anything except how everything has gotten measurably worse every year since 2007, fascism is gaining ground, there's a viral epidemic and a government and doctor sponsored opioid epidemic, Cost of living has de facto doubled, kids have no realistic path towards economic stability anymore, And, I cannot stress this enough, the planet is visibly, at a personal, macro scale, dying.

    No it's gotta be the fucking phones, the sole refuge most people have from the clawing horrors of poverty, social disintegration, political and economic violence, and climate collapse all around them.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      He's even got the perfect co-host lined up and ready to go, already appeared on a Bad podcast and everything :virgil-phone:

  • culpritus [any]
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    2 years ago

    I think there’s also something specific to politics going on.

    ya don't say, huh?

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I only had to read the headline and I immediately knew this was MattY posting yet another L. The whole thing just reeks of, "How do you do, Fellow Liberals?" stink.