The state [Karnataka] passed an amendment to its application of the factories act, which now allows for 12-hour shifts [up from 9], and the easing of rules for night-time work for women. The legislation increases the number of allowable overtime hours to 145 over a three-month period, up from 75, and caps maximum working hours at 48 per week [this is toothless].
Apple and its manufacturing partner Foxconn were involved in lobbying for a significant liberalisation of labour laws...There are “a lot of inputs" from industry lobby groups and foreign companies, including Foxconn and Apple, in the decision to amend Karnataka’s labour law.
"China-Like"
Mother fucker that shit happens in every capitalist country. Don't pretend this is uniquely Chinese.
remember when the chinese province of seoul legalized 69 hour weeks i remember
All those poor overworked hard drinking Chinese salarymen in Japan
An Indian state will allow 12 hour shifts, South Korea wants to increase the maximum working week to 69 hours (not nice) after increasing it to 52 just five years ago, and states in the United States are revoking child labor protections. How positively Chinese! :agony-soviet:
If the Foxconn and Apple factories in China have 12 hour shifts, what makes this framing bad?
Because the comparison makes bad working conditions sound like a foreign concept - something uniquely Chinese. These policies are being reintroduced by these bourgeois nations on their own accord. There's nothing Chinese about it. Also, the annual working time of China, India, and South Korea were pretty close in 2017 , so there's nothing uniquely Chinese about working long hours. There's also the fact that people love to use the worst examples of Chinese labor conditions to describe the whole country. Finally, journalists love to shoehorn China into everything to make their country look less bad. You can call it "saving face". :xicko:
Kinda off topic but whoa, I knew Germany has it better than we do in America but that's sort of a huge difference. Literally working ~75% as much as us. That's the difference between a 30 and 40 hour work week on average, although vacation days probably play a huge role
It might be coming to an end eventually. Back in November, the Minister of Labor of Bavaria proposed increasing the maximum allowed working hours to 10h/day, the CDU is led by a hardcore monetarist neoliberal and they are going to win the next election in a few years, likely allying with the classical liberal/Libertarian FDP and/or the Green Party, which is basically indistinguishable from the American Democrats nowadays.
Also, the working week in Germany is 40h, except for any industry involving metalworking. There the union IG Metall won the 35h working week in the 1980s.
That's bad, but compared to America I'm surprised because I didn't even know countries had limits to working hours in a day! And if they did, I assumed it'd be like 12 hours, goddamn my mom is working 14 shifts
Ah I thought that might be standard too but I wasn't sure, I guess vacation days is really the only factor at play. I was mainly speaking hypothetically, like if Germany had as little leave days as America then 1750 v 1350 hours a year would be the difference between a 40 and 30 hour work week
There's enforcement problems, of course.
Legally the maximum is 48h / week with 6 working days. That's fairly uncommon on paper though. As per how it plays out realistically, eh, who fucking knows, they axed literally everyone who's job it would be to check 30 years ago
I don't think this is trying to make China look bad though. This looks like a business website that calls this a "liberalization" of labor laws so they seem in support of this move.
Indian working culture is fucked and there is a lot of overtim for offices, I'm not sure what the factory scene is like. But it seems the specific factory rules are coming about since companies want to operate in India they have operated in China. The companies expect this because they've operated like that before
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:porky-happy: Hey kids, wouldn't it be freakin' epic to have a 69-hour work week? And how about a $4.20 hourly wage? Now that's "poggers"!
The whole "sweatshop factory that makes the world's technology" is pretty much geographically limited to South Asia (obviously the multinationals responsible for this are all over the world), due to the unique situation of having incredible industry that even other heavily industrialised countries do not have (especially in China and Taiwan), with a much lower cost of living than other industrialised countries, and a large rural population to exploit, weather they be local or migrant workers.
Even if chip manufacturing comes back to the US or something I don't see how 85+ hour work weeks for millions of factory workers on less than minimum wage (in India the floor minimum wage is 2.16 US dollars a day, average minimum wage is 3.16 a day, even if you take purchasing power difference between the US and India into account it's still extremely low) will be accepted, unless conditions massively deteriorate in the next decade. Even Amazon maxes out at five 12 hour shifts a week from what I've read on the news.
Don't worry, bro. We Americans will willingly accept higher prices as long as it's made in America!
starts ranting about why fast food workers deserve pennies because otherwise big macs will increase by 35 cents
The Freedom Phone exists and it was made in China.
Holy shit look at the new homepage
lol this looks so stupid. oh and a nice update https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-freedom-phone-backers-turn-on-each-other
Actually it's kind of funny. I don't feel bad about it at all.
this article is very funny
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I mean even if they somehow manage to get the prices to a level most people would accept by screwing US workers over during the future invasion of Taiwan or whatever happens, America simply does not have the industrial capacity. Look at how Tesla is going, a niche car brand where the steering wheels come off and batteries explode, not even mentioning build quality/QC issues. Imagine trying to build computer chips.
China is cracking down on this shit, South Korea and Japan are the countries that do this kind of thing consistently.
Yes but this is Apple and Foxconn telling India to adopt the rules they are used to operating under in China. If that wasn't the manufacturing status quo then it would be different
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