Anyone else see this?
I ask because there's zero chance anybody I know irl would have seen this?
Any good takes?
I'm still trying to figure out my take. Bad part is it was too...boring...to watch twice. Good but...slow.
Anyway this entire world of cultured urban elite professional is so entirely alien that it was kind of awkward to watch. I don't even own a suit, I will never see a prestigious orchestra anywhere but YouTube. Even if I like classical music, which I do, these trappings make it clear it's not FOR ME.
the way these NPR rich libs are so just elite about something as raw as music. The scene where she had to help the disabled woman back in her chair and immediately went home to wash herself. They might work in passion for a profession but these people are sooo sterile.
It's attitude on cancel culture is something I'm still trying to work out. Lydia lecturing the zoomer student looked like something theys post on redscarepod. Then they slowly revealed that she was a groomer. I liked that. You wouldn't automatically put up your defense mechanisms, they convinced you she was a villain
I really really enjoyed it. I agree that it felt too boring on the first watch. I think the length and the slow-burn pacing of the first two acts made it feel a bit listless, but I think in retrospect with the ending I re-evaluate that opinion.
What I really enjoyed was the NPR-ness you describe. I played trumpet for ~8 years (mostly jazz) and enjoy some classical music, so I spent the first half of the film feeling like an imposter - like there was some validity to their elitism, but I didn't have the experience or knowledge to really understand it. I maintained that opinion through the end of the film, thinking it was trying to make a statement about cancel culture; that it does sometimes deprive the public of genius. like maybe the people we admire from history with f'ed up personal lives wouldn't be remembered today because of cancel culture.
but the longer i sat with it, i thought the opposite. tar's importance/genius was just NPR-lib navel-gazing. on real examination, it is as you say, they do convince you she was a villain. what's more, she was so self-assured that she never could admit it to herself and felt victimized throughout. I think my favorite scene was her being disgusted at the brothel at the end. just a sort of perfect summary of the way liberalism is disgusted at overt exploitation but content with it being abstracted. she was content using her position and power to exploit the women working for/trying out for her, but disgusted at the notion of purchasing sex.
Honestly, i am kind of torn with the best picture going to EEAAO. I thought it was deserving, for sure, but i was really impressed with Tar and i thought Triangle of Sadness was a hoot. Still have to see banshees, so
okay but there was no way Triangle was going to clinch it
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10 minutes of piss and shit & sick, plus utterly unqualified rage at the bourgeois
frankly im amazed it was nommed
i was honestly cackling like a hyena during that scene, its a shame it never stood a chance
same but i was in a very upscale theatre so i think my party were the only ones losing it
The second half was like "yeah but the proletariat would behave the same way if they had the power". Not saying we won't, just the movie didn't acknowledge that it would actually be cool and good
eh they thoroughly establish the bourgeois (and male) characters as utter shits so the turnabout seems fair. what it really is about is material conditions and hierarchy---how hierarchies can develop from people simply having a needed/desired skill in strenuous conditions;see every military dictatorship established by a victorious general.
and also that people that originate from hierarchical society and lacking revolutionary imagination will recreate a class society, just with them at the top, given the opportunity