This is the correct take. People's IRL contributions are much more important than whatever silly shit they say on twitter. Terminally online leftists (all of us on this website) need to grow up, log the fuck off and go do something real. But that's hard, so I guess we'll just keep anonymously criticizing strangers online and bickering with each other over ideological differences that no one normal cares about. For fucks sake, it's almost like COINTELPRO has become self-sustaining - leftists are so good at splintering their own movements by infighting that the FBI can just sit back with some popcorn and watch the show. But hey, I'm sure if we call enough people libs then communism will win, good job everyone.
Disagree and while I'm not saying people should hate her, the Stalin question is a good litmus test. It's the same playbook they run on any Socialist figure. Whether it's Castro, Chavez, Maduro and even Evo. Someone who can't comprehend that Stalin wasn't a supremely evil figure definitely has question marks on them.
I don't even think it's an irrelevant question here. There just isn't a mature enough movement for it to take in effect. If someone can't comprehend lies that are decades old, there should be questions about how they can handle them when they are fresh and involve people they know.
And it's not like she's just a primary offline figure who likes to occasionally rattle zingers online. She runs a Communism podcast that is supposedly educational.
I think it's counterproductive to demand that people swear fealty to a dead soviet leader before considering them a potential comrade. Do you do this litmus test with your real-life friends? Like, do you really refuse to hang out with or organize with people who aren't stalin fans? Or is this more a test for deciding which leftist podcasters/online figures are "good" and which ones are "bad"? Neither makes sense to me, but I'm curious
Fealty? It's about the person being able to interpret information. Yes, I do make notes about what people are saying and whether I can consider them trustworthy on the tasks that information can be applied to. And I have done this before being a leftist. This is a skill required in any cooperative work.
As I said, I don't believe people should hate her but questions exist and a person's ability to interpret fact from blatant fiction should not be completely disregarded.
I do make notes about what people are saying and whether I can consider them trustworthy on the tasks that information can be applied to.
Are you a secret agent or something? I prefer to build trust with people the regular human way, by getting to know them over a period of time, assessing whether or not they share my general goals and principles and seeing if they live up to their commitments. Whether or not they agree with my interpretation of the legacies of controversial historical figures seems less important to me. I also think that there are valid criticisms of Stalin and the U.S.S.R. generally that aren't based on lies and propaganda, so I wouldn't rush to assume that anyone engaging in that criticism lacks critical thinking skills or the ability to interpret information.
No, I simply ask any random friend or coworker help on every and any task regardless if it is in their skill set or expertise. I'm always going to electrician for plumbing work and asking CNN for their opinion on Nicaragua. Just complete bad faith. :side-eye-1:
You're just doing tedious strawman stuff now and you know it. I'm gonna stop now before I commit the cardinal sin of getting mad at an internet stranger over something pointless and stupid. Have a good one.
This is the correct take. People's IRL contributions are much more important than whatever silly shit they say on twitter. Terminally online leftists (all of us on this website) need to grow up, log the fuck off and go do something real. But that's hard, so I guess we'll just keep anonymously criticizing strangers online and bickering with each other over ideological differences that no one normal cares about. For fucks sake, it's almost like COINTELPRO has become self-sustaining - leftists are so good at splintering their own movements by infighting that the FBI can just sit back with some popcorn and watch the show. But hey, I'm sure if we call enough people libs then communism will win, good job everyone.
Disagree and while I'm not saying people should hate her, the Stalin question is a good litmus test. It's the same playbook they run on any Socialist figure. Whether it's Castro, Chavez, Maduro and even Evo. Someone who can't comprehend that Stalin wasn't a supremely evil figure definitely has question marks on them.
I don't even think it's an irrelevant question here. There just isn't a mature enough movement for it to take in effect. If someone can't comprehend lies that are decades old, there should be questions about how they can handle them when they are fresh and involve people they know.
And it's not like she's just a primary offline figure who likes to occasionally rattle zingers online. She runs a Communism podcast that is supposedly educational.
I think it's counterproductive to demand that people swear fealty to a dead soviet leader before considering them a potential comrade. Do you do this litmus test with your real-life friends? Like, do you really refuse to hang out with or organize with people who aren't stalin fans? Or is this more a test for deciding which leftist podcasters/online figures are "good" and which ones are "bad"? Neither makes sense to me, but I'm curious
yes
:chad-stalin:
Sounds like a good way to make sure you're surrounded by insufferable nerds
Thanks I guess
Still a W in my book.
Fealty? It's about the person being able to interpret information. Yes, I do make notes about what people are saying and whether I can consider them trustworthy on the tasks that information can be applied to. And I have done this before being a leftist. This is a skill required in any cooperative work.
As I said, I don't believe people should hate her but questions exist and a person's ability to interpret fact from blatant fiction should not be completely disregarded.
Are you a secret agent or something? I prefer to build trust with people the regular human way, by getting to know them over a period of time, assessing whether or not they share my general goals and principles and seeing if they live up to their commitments. Whether or not they agree with my interpretation of the legacies of controversial historical figures seems less important to me. I also think that there are valid criticisms of Stalin and the U.S.S.R. generally that aren't based on lies and propaganda, so I wouldn't rush to assume that anyone engaging in that criticism lacks critical thinking skills or the ability to interpret information.
No, I simply ask any random friend or coworker help on every and any task regardless if it is in their skill set or expertise. I'm always going to electrician for plumbing work and asking CNN for their opinion on Nicaragua. Just complete bad faith. :side-eye-1:
You're just doing tedious strawman stuff now and you know it. I'm gonna stop now before I commit the cardinal sin of getting mad at an internet stranger over something pointless and stupid. Have a good one.
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