seriously my friends tell me to watch a bunch of shows and so fuckin many of them are obnoxiously pervy right out the gate :stalin-stressed:

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    vor 1 Jahr

    Is it just me or is this shit more common than it used to be? I mostly watch anime from the 80s and 90s and I don't remember it being full of this kind of thing.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      vor 1 Jahr

      Lots of isekai anime used to involve young girls/women finding their own inner power then returning to their worlds as more whole individuals. Majority male isekais exist as harem builders in which a man is teleported and becomes a coomer lord in some Tolkien-esque fantasy world. This is because male neets and apartment dwellers that are majority wise Id brained will consume endless stuff to fill their own personal voids.

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          vor 1 Jahr

          Apologies if it sounds like creepy greentext shitposting. In a more eloquent/straightforward way the profit motive for anime has shifted towards multi approach consumer markets (i.e. merch shit) and has moved towards immediate returns via target audiences that consume said merch which is largely males with lots of disposable income. Harem style isekais (though there some good subversions out there on it for every 10 creepy harem ones) are made not just to fulfill weird pervy fetishes but also because it allows a large cast of characters to be marketed and consumed (all the anime figure dolls, anime body pillows, etc). It also falls into an area of self wish fulfillment versus how other anime deep dive into far deeper and introspective materials (Ergo Proxy, Perfect Blue, Grave of the Fireflies, etc). Anime can be arthouse, but like western media many companies also want to sell slop (and some of that slop is pretty perverted slop). Sorry if my previous comment came off weird, comrade.

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              vor 1 Jahr

              Alienation by capitalism that exploits the feedback loops of people that really need to touch grass (i.e. mental health counseling for some form of addiction filling).

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        vor 1 Jahr

        Lots of isekai anime used to involve young girls/women finding their own inner power then returning to their worlds as more whole individuals.

        Inu Yasha and 12 kingdoms gang represent.

          • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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            vor 1 Jahr

            I watched it so long ago that i honestly don't remember. I only remember the character growth and the MC becoming more and more their own person. It was very weird to see a female anime character that wasn't flat and childish.

            If there's SA then i take it back, apologies.

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      vor 1 Jahr

      I'm someone who watches a lot of old anime (around 190/410 shows, movies, OVAs, I've seen are from before 2000) and I think that's the case, but a big part of it lies in the settings and genres.

      You have way less shows from say 1991 set in school with a 14 year old protagonist, whose goal in the story is to get a girlfriend despite him being a computer nerd gamer who has no friends or personality for example.

      This kind of bullshit did exist, but rarely was it the focus of the narrative. The seasonal format popularized around 2007 encourages a lot more shovelware Anime desperate for sales, so both safe profit plots you've seen a dozen times before as well as horny-bait have become more prominent.

      Another factor are the artstyles. The 80s and 90s tended to have more realistic artstyles , where you could more easily distinguish the characters' ages. Of course, more cartoonist artstyles existed, such as in Rumiko Takahashi's work or the later Slayers/Pokémon style, but moe or so called lolis really only took off after 2000, being either rare (the former) or mostly confined to highly questionable VHS-only content during the mid 80s (the latter)

    • Owl [he/him]
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      vor 1 Jahr

      I can't speak to raw numbers, but I think a lot of what used to be considered exclusive to niche ecchi anime has integrated into whatever is considered normal. Like the level of fanservice in, say, Grenadier made it an ecchi in 2009, but it's less sexually charged than My Dress-Up Darling from last year.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        vor 1 Jahr

        ”My Dress Up Darling”

        You know, we could let a few pieces of archived media be destroyed and not have a problem…

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      vor 1 Jahr

      Come on now. You are 30-40 years removed from the content you're watching. Would you be comparing the cultural trends of 80's American TV and 2020's?

      Much of the development of modern anime genres happened after that period. Some genres that were popular back then e.g magical girls have died out and were replaced with some parts being scattered and found elsewhere.

      Its more common because there are a lot more anime being made, at least 10-100x more per year. Its more common in absolute numbers because you can find a lot of niche crap that barely anyone watches but still gets made.

      But as a proportion its not realy more significantly different from the past 10-15 year trend. Anything before mid 2000 is an entirely different industry honestly.