Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades. Sober Kanye says he "Looooooooves Nazis" and he's in the time out box for less than a year?
Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
wouldn't have suggested otherwise.
Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades
Mel Gibson's drunk rant in 2006 was far from his first antisemitic incident. it was just his most publicized one. Just look at Passion of the Christ. Also his drunk rant didn't "destroy his career for decades" like nazis with victim complexes would have you believe. He was directing, acting, and producing films all through the rest of the 00s as well as the 10s. The incident barely touched him. Go look at his IMDB credits.
Okay maybe ostracized from Hollywood is a bit of an exaggeration but if I'm reading those IMDB credits correctly he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.
And yes, the drunk shit wasn't the first time he's been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn't Kanyes first time either.
he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.
I'd chalk that up to his age more than anything tbh. Dude was born in 1956. His "bankable leading man" years were during the heyday of Lethal Weapon, in the '80s. Lethal weapon 4 came out in '96. He became more of a director/producer in old age. Passion of the Christ I would say was his biggest antisemitic incident more than the drunk rant, because it was a big budget religious film viewed by Christians all over the world, and Mel Gibson specifically wanted the interpretation of the new testament that blames the Jews (not just the pharisees, but the Jews in general) for the death of Jesus Christ. Even more than the Romans. Both the ADL and the Vatican had reservations about this when looking at the script.
And yes, the drunk shit wasn’t the first time he’s been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn’t Kanyes first time either.
I know. There's some questionable lyrics about Jews in Kanye's song St. Pablo. Wouldn't suggest otherwise. I just have reservations about the narratives where either of these guys are framed as victims of ostracization. They repulsed everybody with their bigotry. They weren't abandoned unfairly, is all I'm getting at. Nor did they really suffer all that much career wise. Even if what you said about Gibson truly was a reaction to his bigotry rather than the tendency of older actors to get less leading roles, he still was making way more bank and living in way more luxury than your average person. Poor people living paycheck to paycheck have their careers end over far less. And the Screen Actors Guild didn't rescind his membership, so he still has union protection, too.
Because apparenly Kanye has bipolar disorder. Like perhaps other people could correct me but I've never heard of other cases of bipolar causing you turn into super Nazi and that hes rich AF and actually can afford treatment so uhh.
I mean, I've heard descriptions of Bipolar episodes leading to psychosis, and I dont see why nazi conspiracy shit would be less believable for someone to start believing under psychosis than shit like aliens or space nazis beaming into their brain and draining their precious fluids.
But thats all for a medical professional to deal with, any speculation that goes beyond "its a possibility that needs to be investigated" is kind of a soft apologism. It could equally be the case that he believes nazi shit the regular way too and whatever mental health problems he has going on just removed the self-awareness and control that is necessary to not just yell "I LOVE HITLER" out loud on a broadcast interview.
Bipolar I won't make you into a Nazi but the manic episodes are much more extreme than the hypo-manic episodes people with Bipolar II tend to get, and for some reason that often gets lost in the discourse. It doesn't excuse him at all, but I do want to make it clear that these sort of delusions - as in grand conspiracies, not Nazi shit - are common during manic episodes.
I think in this case the simplest explanation is the correct one: Kanye stopped taking his meds and spent too much time on 4chan. Since most celebrities are emotionally stunted adults, it's no surprise that many of them fall into the same cultural demographic as teenage boys.
Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades. Sober Kanye says he "Looooooooves Nazis" and he's in the time out box for less than a year?
wouldn't have suggested otherwise.
Mel Gibson's drunk rant in 2006 was far from his first antisemitic incident. it was just his most publicized one. Just look at Passion of the Christ. Also his drunk rant didn't "destroy his career for decades" like nazis with victim complexes would have you believe. He was directing, acting, and producing films all through the rest of the 00s as well as the 10s. The incident barely touched him. Go look at his IMDB credits.
Okay maybe ostracized from Hollywood is a bit of an exaggeration but if I'm reading those IMDB credits correctly he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.
And yes, the drunk shit wasn't the first time he's been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn't Kanyes first time either.
I'd chalk that up to his age more than anything tbh. Dude was born in 1956. His "bankable leading man" years were during the heyday of Lethal Weapon, in the '80s. Lethal weapon 4 came out in '96. He became more of a director/producer in old age. Passion of the Christ I would say was his biggest antisemitic incident more than the drunk rant, because it was a big budget religious film viewed by Christians all over the world, and Mel Gibson specifically wanted the interpretation of the new testament that blames the Jews (not just the pharisees, but the Jews in general) for the death of Jesus Christ. Even more than the Romans. Both the ADL and the Vatican had reservations about this when looking at the script.
I know. There's some questionable lyrics about Jews in Kanye's song St. Pablo. Wouldn't suggest otherwise. I just have reservations about the narratives where either of these guys are framed as victims of ostracization. They repulsed everybody with their bigotry. They weren't abandoned unfairly, is all I'm getting at. Nor did they really suffer all that much career wise. Even if what you said about Gibson truly was a reaction to his bigotry rather than the tendency of older actors to get less leading roles, he still was making way more bank and living in way more luxury than your average person. Poor people living paycheck to paycheck have their careers end over far less. And the Screen Actors Guild didn't rescind his membership, so he still has union protection, too.
Ehh didnt he direct hacksaw ridge tho? Like maybe his acting career is finished but his directing career still going.
Because apparenly Kanye has bipolar disorder. Like perhaps other people could correct me but I've never heard of other cases of bipolar causing you turn into super Nazi and that hes rich AF and actually can afford treatment so uhh.
I mean, I've heard descriptions of Bipolar episodes leading to psychosis, and I dont see why nazi conspiracy shit would be less believable for someone to start believing under psychosis than shit like aliens or space nazis beaming into their brain and draining their precious fluids.
But thats all for a medical professional to deal with, any speculation that goes beyond "its a possibility that needs to be investigated" is kind of a soft apologism. It could equally be the case that he believes nazi shit the regular way too and whatever mental health problems he has going on just removed the self-awareness and control that is necessary to not just yell "I LOVE HITLER" out loud on a broadcast interview.
I have bipolar type 2, it doesn’t make you a hateful loser. He’s just an ass who is making us look bad by blaming it on his illness.
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There is a theory that once you get that rich and have it all, the wealthy sometimes just likes to start shit because they are extremely bored.
Of course it's probably because they're pieces of shit, but I wouldn't put it past them.
Bipolar I won't make you into a Nazi but the manic episodes are much more extreme than the hypo-manic episodes people with Bipolar II tend to get, and for some reason that often gets lost in the discourse. It doesn't excuse him at all, but I do want to make it clear that these sort of delusions - as in grand conspiracies, not Nazi shit - are common during manic episodes.
I think in this case the simplest explanation is the correct one: Kanye stopped taking his meds and spent too much time on 4chan. Since most celebrities are emotionally stunted adults, it's no surprise that many of them fall into the same cultural demographic as teenage boys.