The rival.

Especially the douchebag Machiavellian type rivals that the main character ends up friends or teaming up with after the main character 'proves their worth' to them by being stronger. No character growth outside of now they work with the protagonist.

I really want this trope to be subverted one day, like the douchey rival shows up and everyone is just like "Wow what a dickhead" and just relentlessly bullies him until he goes away.

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Isn't this meant to teach a lesson to kids? Like, "the people who bitterly resent you can change and they have reasons (however misguided) for their actions."

    I don't watch a ton of anime, and watch very little shonen (where I'm guessing this trope is most popular), which is probably why I have a different reaction.

    I think an example of the inverse (subversion?) of this trope is Guts and Griffith's relationship in Berserk.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Guts and Griffith’s relationship in Berserk

      Fake Friends: The Anime

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Isn’t this meant to teach a lesson to kids? Like, “the people who bitterly resent you can change and they have reasons (however misguided) for their actions."

      ⭕ピ​ンポン ! This is it.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think an example of the inverse (subversion?) of this trope is Guts and Griffith’s relationship in Berserk.

      Yeah, but Griffith gets his comeuppance for his pride by getting his life ruined due to his own actions while Guts continues to grow before coming back to rescue him. I haven't finished the Golden Age arc yet, but I'm sure they must learn to be best friends and equals as Guts helps Griffith come to terms with his new life as a shell of his former self, right? I can't wait to see what wacky hijinks they get up to next!

      • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I can't comment without major spoilers. When you finish the golden age arc you'll see what I mean.

        • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I've read all of Berserk, I'm just seeing how many "oofs" I could collect from people reading that.