• Bobby_DROP_TABLES [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Mfw the show about violent criminals doing crime features characters who aren't good people

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        But, that's sorta the point. He kills and fucks random prostitutes and beats women and pay for hit jobs, and he thinks being a thinly veiled family man absolves him of that. It's no different than any of the cartel hitmen or mobsters who wear crosses and go to church every week. Hell, there's even a scene where Paulie explains how they'll all go to heaven after 3000 years in purgatory for all their sins (murder, abuse, cheating, stealing, lying, etc.). The "nice guy" is the irony of it.

        At what point is crime portrayed as "cool" in the show? They're paranoid of the FBI every second of the day, all their friends die or snitch, his mob life ruins his family life, and Tony is a fat and depressed murderer who gets a heart attack for seeing a box of rice with a black man on it. The only time it seemed "cool" was when they visited Italy for the mob meeting, and it was the Italians who were portrayed as sophisticated while Tony and his crew were baboons

        The Shield is trash because there was no message. The only nuance was "Julian was abused because he's gay, but blue lives matter so he keeps his head down, and that angle stops being explored after season 2 because the actor is a psychopathic christian and didn't want to play a gay character" and "Mackey will murder a man for no reason but he loves his autistic son who never makes an appearance except 1 episode a season and is only used as a prop to advance Mackey's story". And The Shield always portrayed crime as cool. The corrupt cops always got the bad guy despite their brutality, the good guys gave in to the corruption because the world calls for wet work and we answer. Fucking Mackey somehow bags a bunch of attractive young women. The only time it portrayed it as an actual problem was when their own corrupt guys get caught, and even then it's about how they don't want to be arrested and not because it's, you know, bad.

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          • WideningGyro [any]
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            2 years ago

            I feel like having the standard for art being "moronic chuds have not understand it" will rule out a lot of good art

          • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I just fail to see where the power fantasy is at aside from him being a boss and having underlings who kill for him. I guess that’s the power fantasy, but you can say that about so many different characters even if they’re not evil.

  • RonJonGuaido [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    He's actually bad. Wow. I didn't know that, I just uh, you're telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say, he was an amazing man, whether you agreed with him or not, he was an amazing man, who led an amazing life. Um, I'm actually saddened to hear that. I'm saddened to hear that. Thank you very much.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Ummm ackchually he was the good guy. The curtains are blue.

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        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I gotta do Easter dinner tomorrow and ugh. Usually I can get out cause of work or not eating meat, but they're going out, my grandma who is my last grandparent could go at any time and my little cousins who I do like will be there.

          Gonna tell the little cousins all about JkRowling when we get to go play away from the group. Their mom is a giant Disney adult potterhead who acted like a bullying victim cause she bought the Wizard SS game and people she never met made her feel bad online by making general statements expressing their views that were only aimed at her in that she chose to be included in the group being criticized. Oldest little cousin gets my punk rock hand me downs and had green hair and recently got in trouble for kicking the shit out of a kid in school who was being an asshole about it. She got in trouble and DM'd, "don't tell your mom i said this, but you did the right thing".

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            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Took that long? Dang. I could never watch that guy. Just all kinds of not my style of humor.

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                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  I liked avgn at the pre movie good times of the guy cause the angery was sort of the baseline bit that the real bits were hung onto like you do with a character. Anyone else reviewing things who calls themselves angry makes the Angry the entirety of the bit.

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            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              So, I read the Donnie Brasco book as a really little precocious kid going through a reading about the mafia phase. I was like...11 or so. Anyway, the book had surveillance photos of the real investigation and the real Donny Brasco looked exactly like my dad at the time.

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                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  My parents are fine. They're libs but like...union libs. Far left of Bernie regarding foreign policy and economically maybe even a bit left of the guy. Socially They're ignorant and not willing to learn but are live and let live kinda folks. The rest of my family aren't like...the worst, they're just people in their 50s that still watch family guy or silent generation and dying. It's also on not polite to disagree with someone's backward statements and not to make them in first place so I'm expected to just sit there and not call out bullshit. Which is a really silly thing to expect, I see them twice a year and really don't give a shit what they think of me.

          • Vncredleader
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            2 years ago

            Make it about the martyrdom of Catholics, like I always do. They literally cannot refute it when you frame the Easter Rising as such

                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  They've got a weird grudge against a religion that was historically advantages cause they like George Carlin. Honestly I'm complaining cause for twice a year in my life I have to hear reactionary shit a day keep my mouth shut. A lot of people do that every day.

              • Farman [any]
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                2 years ago

                Then why do they care if you eat meat?

          • Farman [any]
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            2 years ago

            Tell them sorcery is the devils work

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Don't give me material. I've been really ontonreadong into the Enish Vivil war and early American Colonies and am ready to jump into Early Modern English and become the VVitchfinder of the Coloney of Massachusetts Bay to remind each and all that they have been swayed along the path of Satan and only through prayer and agricultural labors may their souls be possibly sav'd but to always recall that even even should they repent of these most blasphemous and grievous sins and the Lord in His Majesty should find it to forgive their wretchedness that their nature is and will be eternally as a tree in winter. Unprofitable save to be hewn and burn'd.

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  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    What else are they supposed to do? Make pizzas and catcall women all day?

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I agree. God should forbid it :anti-italian-action: