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  • WideningGyro [any]
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    2 years ago

    What is best for the working class globally - the US getting weakened, potentially to the point of losing its status as hegemon, or one of a handful of powers capable of meaningfully challenging US hegemony being kicked to the curb, vindicating NATO as an organization? And in some kind of far-fetched "Ukraine wins" scenario - how exactly is the working class of Ukraine helped by a neoliberal, anti-union, pro-nazi government being vindicated and hailed as heroes - while backed by militias with US hardware? Kind of academic, since it's not happening, but really curious to understand your logic there.

    The whole war is a shitshow, no doubt. War always is. I also have no qualms with your characterization of both sides, but it's missing the important fact that of the two sides, the US/NATO/Ukraine side has been markedly more A) bloodthirsty and B) unpredictable. I don't think it is unreasonable that the side that is actively escalating the conflict seemingly with no understanding of globally important concepts like strategic parity or geopolitical realism in general is the worse of the two. Russia, for how shitty it is as a political entity, is at least consistent, and has actually been- despite what libs will claim again and again - relatively honest about its intentions, what it would and wouldn't accept, etc. Again, the other side is the complete opposite, obfuscating constantly, to the point of denying basic historical facts about what the breaking up of the USSR meant for the region.

    Unless your argument is that the US is so volatile that the prospect of losing this conflict is too likely to cause them to just slam the red button and launch nuclear armageddon, then I simply fail to see any argument for supporting the US in this conflict.