I think a lot of americans on here are way too dismissive of, like say, britain and france, considering their working class is way more powerful and organized relative to their states. Seems like cope sometimes
yh classic dialectical paradox i guess where it would be specially impactful but also for the same reason is very difficult to radicalize people properly
honestly also makes me genuinely think that if the hard left actually does ever take power in a place like america its gonna unironically be a bloodbath for its enemies
also American's have no right to hate the British or French for the actions of their nation especially as they do not allow that logic to be applied in reverse
also terfism would never have gained the hold it has in Britian without American money astroturfing it
Tbh it's more the thing of people being edgy about their hatred for a country and then wishing it 'sinks into the sea under cloud of nuclear hellfire', come what may for its working class. Tbh it also sometimes devolves into people literally stating that these working classes are brought their situations on themselves, which I think is a really vile pov and that anyone who says that should be ashamed. It's especially incredible coming from the keyboards of yanks. But yh some yanks are frequently showing that they don't know much of anything about the working classes of these countries; all they've got is a vague idea of 'labour aristrocracy'.
I don't know, I live in Germany and while nowadays even here some union activity happens, the benefit to the left is minimal and both radical and radlib orgs don't really see any growth. The fash do.
Are there more potential leftists that simply do not trust in any current political organization and thus just withdraw from caring about politics in the bourgeois state, while not trusting the revolutionary left or are the fash absorbing these people like a sponge?
It's probably the latter, but at this point I just don't know and doomer about the world we live in and life in general.
I think a lot of americans on here are way too dismissive of, like say, britain and france, considering their working class is way more powerful and organized relative to their states. Seems like cope sometimes
The old world is just a place where vacations happen, it isn't real.
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yh classic dialectical paradox i guess where it would be specially impactful but also for the same reason is very difficult to radicalize people properly
honestly also makes me genuinely think that if the hard left actually does ever take power in a place like america its gonna unironically be a bloodbath for its enemies
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also American's have no right to hate the British or French for the actions of their nation especially as they do not allow that logic to be applied in reverse
also terfism would never have gained the hold it has in Britian without American money astroturfing it
:kelly: astroterf
Tbh it's more the thing of people being edgy about their hatred for a country and then wishing it 'sinks into the sea under cloud of nuclear hellfire', come what may for its working class. Tbh it also sometimes devolves into people literally stating that these working classes are brought their situations on themselves, which I think is a really vile pov and that anyone who says that should be ashamed. It's especially incredible coming from the keyboards of yanks. But yh some yanks are frequently showing that they don't know much of anything about the working classes of these countries; all they've got is a vague idea of 'labour aristrocracy'.
I've also seen people here celebrating for example actual food shortages in the UK which are both real and directly hurting the poorest
literal sadistic poverty porn
yeah, demonic countries, no doubt about it, but compared to the US they're downright class conscious
I don't know, I live in Germany and while nowadays even here some union activity happens, the benefit to the left is minimal and both radical and radlib orgs don't really see any growth. The fash do.
Are there more potential leftists that simply do not trust in any current political organization and thus just withdraw from caring about politics in the bourgeois state, while not trusting the revolutionary left or are the fash absorbing these people like a sponge?
It's probably the latter, but at this point I just don't know and doomer about the world we live in and life in general.