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  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Calling Russia an imperial power is objectively wrong

    Not only is it wrong, it's largely irrelevant, which is even worse. Are people under the impression that a hypothetical still-existing RSFSR would do absolutely nothing while a fascist Ukraine continue to shell the civilian population of the Donbass, that they would sit on their collective soviet socialist asses while fascist Ukraine attempt to ethnically cleanse Russians living in Ukraine and mass their troops close to the Russian border while making overtures to join NATO? We have clear precedent of a socialist country invading a fascist country in order to do a great service to humanity by snapping its neck, so the idea of a socialist Russia just doing nothing (because socialist means pacifism apparently) has no merit. And if Russia would invade Ukraine anyways regardless of whether it's socialist or capitalist or "imperialist," then what is the fucking problem?

    A socialist soldier of socialist Russia socialistically pulling the socialist trigger of the socialist rifle to have the socialist bullet socialistically enter and exit the skull of the fascist Right Sektor goon is good while a capitalist soldier of capitalist Russia capitalistically pulling the capitalist trigger of the capitalist rifle to have the capitalist bullet capitalistically enter and exit the skull of the fascist Right Sektor goon is bad apparently. All I see is a dead fascist.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      while a fascist Ukraine continue to shell the civilian population of the Donbas

      This is what I keep coming back to in every argument about this online and IRL. Russia's invasion wasn't the start of the war, it was an escalation of an ongoing conflict - and yes it fucking sucks that the war got escalated in this way, but it's patently false to say that there wasn't an attempt to end it peacefully. Minsk 2 would have reintegrated Donbas with Ukraine with some protections for its minority population, but Ukraine didn't even implement the first step. Zelensky was elected on a platform of ending the war, but when he tried Azov told him they would rather coup his government than stand down. At some point when negotiations are broken down the only thing any organization has left to do is resort to violence, which the Russian state did when it felt threatened enough by NATO (which if you'll recall spent months warmongering prior to the invasion start) to justify the risk.