I always wonder at the logic behind the 'Earth is fucked, let's colonize another planet" school of thought.
I mean, bro, what makes you think a dead planet is going to be more habitable to you than the dying planet we're on now? Would it not take less effort to fix Earth?
What are you going to do when you get to Mars? You can't breathe there, idiot. There's no food or water. It's too cold for humans to survive on and there's zero of the infrastructure you enjoy on Earth there.
It's the clearest sign these tech scum aren't remotely serious about space, it's all just a sales pitch for zero-interest rate loans and government contracts
The fact Mars has a third of earth gravity would mean every human living there would develop osteoporosis within a few years, if their ambitions were even grounded in any kind of viable/semi-viable long term vision, the tech billionaires of earth would be blabbering endlessly about O'neill cylinders or a Standard Torus
Actually, bone density loss is more of a problem in microgravity, rather than lower gravity, and can be largely mitigated with diet, supplements, and weight-bearing exercise.
Astronauts don't generally suffer from full on osteoporosis, either, just osteopenia. This is treatable, fortunately.
Source: had a T score of -2.4 as a teen, now have a T score of 0.8! (That's 24% lower bone density than average to 8% higher!) Turns out people need to have hormones in their bodies and bad things happen when you do not have them.
This bit is like something out of a sci-fi story...
Another option is to live underground, where day-night variations would be damped enough that temperatures would stay roughly constant. There are indications that Mercury contains lava tubes, like the Moon and Mars, which would be suitable for this purpose.
I hope the Wikipedia editors have checked the info. In any case - I learned something. Yesterday I would have laughed at the idea of a colony on Mars as being total nonsense. And I'm annoyed at myself that like many non-scientists - I tend to forget simple science.
I assumed Mercury gravity was far lower because it's so much smaller. I entirely forgot about density.
Because Mercury is very dense, its surface gravity is 0.38g like Mars, even though it is a smaller planet.
I think it is a diversion. Sea Labs are the perfect non-terrestrial habitat format. You know how I know? All the billionairs already have them. All this Mars tech, if any if it can be made to work would be great for the floating city state plutocracy
I've been trying for a long time to put together coherent thoughts on this so forgive me if this is an unhinged ramble.
In my mind there's some kind of, possibly uniquely American but possibly a universal quirk of evolution, brainworm that makes people believe their direct biological descendants are somehow... Them? When these bazinga brains talk about sending humanity off to the stars, I want to grab them by the lapels and scream at them that humans surviving on another planet or in another galaxy literally does not affect them at all.
Despite them all being the most selfish motherfuckers in the entire world, they still literally think humanity is more important than humans, including themselves somehow.
Resolving those conflicting facts ties in with the weird eugenics adjacent shit about "population collapse" and having enough (white) babies, but I feel like it also connects somehow to the weird thing (many) Americans do where they identify by where their ancestors came from. It's one thing for an immigrant to identify with their homeland or for someone to identify with the culture of their parents, but when you've got random white people who have never left Ohio saying they "are" Irish or German I just don't get it.
I think there's something broken in at least the American brainpan but who knows maybe it's true everywhere, where these people literally think anything with their genes is an extension of themselves, without realizing that's what they're thinking, and not in some cosmic "we are all connected" or scientific "we are literally related" way, I mean they think this is true in some more important philosophical way. They really see their genetic cohort as not just related to themselves, but equivalent to themselves.
Idk maybe it's just racism in another hat. But regardless of what it is, this has always underpinned all this "humanity venturing out to fill the universe" shit in my estimation.
I think this was in reference to a popular Chinese show or movie, but I remember hearing that the premise was the scientists were trying to use mars/the moon/other planets as a supplement to earth and improve living standards here instead of using it as a replacement for earth. A stark contrast to popular media here where you magically grow food on a planet with no water.
I always wonder at the logic behind the 'Earth is fucked, let's colonize another planet" school of thought.
I mean, bro, what makes you think a dead planet is going to be more habitable to you than the dying planet we're on now? Would it not take less effort to fix Earth?
What are you going to do when you get to Mars? You can't breathe there, idiot. There's no food or water. It's too cold for humans to survive on and there's zero of the infrastructure you enjoy on Earth there.
It's the clearest sign these tech scum aren't remotely serious about space, it's all just a sales pitch for zero-interest rate loans and government contracts
The fact Mars has a third of earth gravity would mean every human living there would develop osteoporosis within a few years, if their ambitions were even grounded in any kind of viable/semi-viable long term vision, the tech billionaires of earth would be blabbering endlessly about O'neill cylinders or a Standard Torus
Actually, bone density loss is more of a problem in microgravity, rather than lower gravity, and can be largely mitigated with diet, supplements, and weight-bearing exercise.
Astronauts don't generally suffer from full on osteoporosis, either, just osteopenia. This is treatable, fortunately.
Source: had a T score of -2.4 as a teen, now have a T score of 0.8! (That's 24% lower bone density than average to 8% higher!) Turns out people need to have hormones in their bodies and bad things happen when you do not have them.
Yeah, if they were serious about space they'd be setting up a Mercury colony instead
Nah, Venus. Breathable air is a lifting gas on Venus, and it would keep you in a zone of the atmosphere that stays at a habitable temperature.
idk I'd rather live in an underground city than in a city floating above storms of sulfuric acid
I thought that page was by a wackadoodle but then I realized I couldn't tell if the text was crazy or sane so I checked Wikipedia...
This bit is like something out of a sci-fi story...
Idk the rest of his website definitely comes off as a little wackadoodle but the shit on this page sounds plausible unless his math is wrong
I hope the Wikipedia editors have checked the info. In any case - I learned something. Yesterday I would have laughed at the idea of a colony on Mars as being total nonsense. And I'm annoyed at myself that like many non-scientists - I tend to forget simple science.
I assumed Mercury gravity was far lower because it's so much smaller. I entirely forgot about density.
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This is how Bernie can still win.
I think it is a diversion. Sea Labs are the perfect non-terrestrial habitat format. You know how I know? All the billionairs already have them. All this Mars tech, if any if it can be made to work would be great for the floating city state plutocracy
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I hate pod six
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Because earth is uninhabitable to billionaires if we kill them all. The poor can bomb your bunker but not your mars base
I've been trying for a long time to put together coherent thoughts on this so forgive me if this is an unhinged ramble.
In my mind there's some kind of, possibly uniquely American but possibly a universal quirk of evolution, brainworm that makes people believe their direct biological descendants are somehow... Them? When these bazinga brains talk about sending humanity off to the stars, I want to grab them by the lapels and scream at them that humans surviving on another planet or in another galaxy literally does not affect them at all.
Despite them all being the most selfish motherfuckers in the entire world, they still literally think humanity is more important than humans, including themselves somehow.
Resolving those conflicting facts ties in with the weird eugenics adjacent shit about "population collapse" and having enough (white) babies, but I feel like it also connects somehow to the weird thing (many) Americans do where they identify by where their ancestors came from. It's one thing for an immigrant to identify with their homeland or for someone to identify with the culture of their parents, but when you've got random white people who have never left Ohio saying they "are" Irish or German I just don't get it.
I think there's something broken in at least the American brainpan but who knows maybe it's true everywhere, where these people literally think anything with their genes is an extension of themselves, without realizing that's what they're thinking, and not in some cosmic "we are all connected" or scientific "we are literally related" way, I mean they think this is true in some more important philosophical way. They really see their genetic cohort as not just related to themselves, but equivalent to themselves.
Idk maybe it's just racism in another hat. But regardless of what it is, this has always underpinned all this "humanity venturing out to fill the universe" shit in my estimation.
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I think this was in reference to a popular Chinese show or movie, but I remember hearing that the premise was the scientists were trying to use mars/the moon/other planets as a supplement to earth and improve living standards here instead of using it as a replacement for earth. A stark contrast to popular media here where you magically grow food on a planet with no water.