Never trust a whitie

  • Cherufe [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Rigid doctrinarianism doesn’t win elections.

    Playing Despacito does 😎

    • captchaintherye [any]
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      4 years ago

      It shows you how successful the re-branding of the Democrats has been over 40 years. They squat on the "left" space in US politics, and everything to the left of them is stigmatized as crazy or authoritarian and a toxic third rail. To the point where they legit have poor/working class people going online and arguing that free healthcare and college are bad.

      Which is only going to get worse if Biden wins. If the Democrats get the White House it will stamp a seal of approval on them that they're "the left", and Biden is farther right than even Clinton or Obama. He's farther right than fucking Reagan and Nixon ffs. When the Dems subsume the "left" and do a hard right it has disastrous effects on the real left cracking into mainstream media and discourse.

        • captchaintherye [any]
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          4 years ago

          Agreed, with the exception that they're pretty OK at winning in a controlled environment where they can oversee the cheating, and when their opponent agrees to play by some archaic rules of decorum and never attack them even while they're screwing the pants off him, and then surrenders and supports the ghoulish evil candidate who screwed him.

          Once they have to go into a general election against Republicans who are much better at cheating, they're often fucked.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I've heard of him, but only negative shit. Everyone to the left of Liz Warren hates this dude. He's the ultimate PMC lib but tries say what he's doing is socialism.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I know the word "grifter" gets thrown around a lot, but.... [points]

    • TemporalMembrane [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      If you read the article, it says this guy started out at fox news. Then he switched to progressives by starting up a big data firm in 2018, and now he's aligning with Biden. The guy is nothing more than a political-industrial weathervane. He also insists that people not talk about carbon taxation and instead talk about "investing in green energy" because the latter is (I shit you not) popular with 51% of the electorate.

      • skollontai [any]
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        4 years ago

        If you read the article,

        I refuse, but thanks for the summary.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Why did he need to ever brand himself as an activist? Just admit you're a pollster with no actual political alignment and be done with it. Who does he think actually falls for hello the fellow kids routine?

      • wtf [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        and still he may be most famous for posting abolish ice over and over

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Hes reassuring and gratifying the media elites who constantly hand-wring about this shit

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Cushbomb said the exact same

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I don't think he's talking about the presidential election, just down ballot stuff where there's a potential split between a "progressive" and a leftist.

  • captchaintherye [any]
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    4 years ago

    I really wish Biden/Clinton losing didn't require Trump winning, so that I could laugh at these stupid idiots' colossal failure, without having to experience Trump as president.

    • VolcelVanguard [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Just as a thought experiment, I wonder if being left of marx is possible like what would that hypothetically look like.

    • captchaintherye [any]
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      4 years ago

      I wish I could make more people understand this. Yeah we can argue about whether electoralism is good or bad for days in a separate thread. But if we are saying for the sake of argument that voting is actually worth something, the one way to guarantee that your vote doesn't mean jack shit is to hand it to someone blindly, whoever winds up winning one party's primary, like 18 months in advance before there's even a vote cast in a primary.

        • captchaintherye [any]
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          4 years ago

          My thing is, even if you really 100% truly know you are going to vote for Biden in November, fine, go ahead, do that. But no one has to know that. What's the point in announcing it now? Hold his feet to the fire now, and then do whatever you want later. What does announcing it now accomplish other than adding yourself to a cluster of millions of people who pledged their vote to Biden, letting the Dems know they have votes in their pockets and don't have to do shit to appease us?

          I really hate the term "virtue signaling" because it's been co-opted by Nazi wet-brains, but this is a textbook example of the original meaning of "virtue signaling".

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Chomsky would never say that but still :gui-better:

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        I don't care what people whose surname is 1/7 vowel say.

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    4 years ago

    apparently this is the guy who popularized abolishing ICE. but now he's given up on that because it's too partisan. how the fuck do you take credit for popularizing abolishing ICE, a legitimately good thing, and then rescind it because it doesn't get Joe elected? like you'd realize hmmm I have actually done something good outside of an electoralist scope, is this worthwhile or should I give up my values for joe biden?

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's because he's an opportunist. He was riding the wave of PMC DSA members in New York to make a name for himself and now he is trying to get cozy with the DNC as some kind of left whisperer.

  • kilternkafuffle [any]
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    4 years ago

    Depends on the doctrinarianism.

    Recent experience shows that gelatinous wishywashiness doesn't win elections, but they keep running on it.

  • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    why is is that every single time i see that haircut in a biopic or header image I imaging grabbing it full-fisted and slapping the face hard enough to tear that godawful swoop off his goddamn forehead

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    4 years ago

    I mean on the one hand he’s right we really need to stop purity testing and start doing more big tent activism and outreach to form class conciiousness and help they 47% of the country realize that they can still have a voice to Change.

    On the other hand fuck this dude I hope he steps on an entire bin of legos barefoot