It’s not the job of the actor to be a firearms expert. They go through safety training, but the point of the armorer is that they do trust that the gun is safe. With Alec Baldwin, the gun was supposed to be loaded with a dummy round but was loaded with a live round. Some dummy rounds look almost exactly the same as a live round. Even if he did check it the chances are he probably wouldn’t have noticed.
It’s not the job of the actor to be a firearms expert.
Yeah, this is kind of what I mean. They don't need to be an expert but they sure do need to know the rules of gun safety and be well enough trained to check that the gun is actually safely loaded.
Guns are serious, there's no space for people to handle them unseriously.
actors do research for roles all the time. it is absolutely their job to know how to handle a firearm if that's part of a character they're playing. beyond that, anyone who refuses to learn gun safety should be banned from touching a firearm, ever.
It’s not the job of the actor to be a firearms expert.
It is, however, the job of the production company to hire a competent armourer. And if they knowingly hire a cut-rate armourer with a proven history of dangerous safety violations, the production company's owner ought to be held responsible. Alec Baldwin is the owner of the film's production company.
It's the number one basic rule of gun safety: don't point a gun at something you don't want to shoot. It's not hard. If you need to break the most cardinal law of gun safety for a film production, you better know what the fuck you are doing.
It’s not the job of the actor to be a firearms expert. They go through safety training, but the point of the armorer is that they do trust that the gun is safe. With Alec Baldwin, the gun was supposed to be loaded with a dummy round but was loaded with a live round. Some dummy rounds look almost exactly the same as a live round. Even if he did check it the chances are he probably wouldn’t have noticed.
Yeah, this is kind of what I mean. They don't need to be an expert but they sure do need to know the rules of gun safety and be well enough trained to check that the gun is actually safely loaded.
Guns are serious, there's no space for people to handle them unseriously.
it is always the job of the guy holding a gun to be careful not to kill people with the gun.
actors do research for roles all the time. it is absolutely their job to know how to handle a firearm if that's part of a character they're playing. beyond that, anyone who refuses to learn gun safety should be banned from touching a firearm, ever.
Did you not read what I wrote, they do safety training.
And no, it is absolutely not their job to be firearms experts. That’s the SAG and IATSE position on it as well.
i did, i just also read what someone else wrote, which is that he skipped it apparently?
that's nice that IATSE and SAG feel that way. i disagree with their position and stand by what i said :shrug-outta-hecks:
It is, however, the job of the production company to hire a competent armourer. And if they knowingly hire a cut-rate armourer with a proven history of dangerous safety violations, the production company's owner ought to be held responsible. Alec Baldwin is the owner of the film's production company.
It's the number one basic rule of gun safety: don't point a gun at something you don't want to shoot. It's not hard. If you need to break the most cardinal law of gun safety for a film production, you better know what the fuck you are doing.