I am so glad modern Gundam has moved beyond UNDERSTANDING.

Critical support for the Dawn of Fold in their efforts to resist Spacian oppression.

(Shaddiq being a closet Maoist was a twist I wasn't expecting.)

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I'm holding my breath until the smoke clears and "revolution is necessary and good, actually" is dared to be the message of the finale. Or not. :lenin-sleeping:

    • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      That's the thing, Gundam used to have that message.

      OG Gundam (0079) is just good ol' Nazi punching, and most UC timeline stuff is "Imperialism breeds fascism".

      Gundam had it's lib moment in the 90's, but OG Gundam was written by a communist, and it seems we've finally come full circle.

      • Cromalin [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        i mean, gjallerhorn in ibo was incredibly obviously a standin for :amerikkka: so gundam's been getting back to based-ics for a bit

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      1 year ago

      I guess Hathaway was written like 30 years ago so technically could dig up a synopsis on that to see where it goes. Dunno, maybe some of these Japanese animators are going based mode in the face of the degrading west. I sure hope so.

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        Tomino (OG creator of Gundam) was a student activist and card carrying commie. Most of the stuff he wrote was pretty based, minus the unexamined misogyny. I think Hathaway is an adaptation of one of his sequel novels

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          The movies have diverged from the novel by being a sequel to Char's Counterattack. The Hathaway's Flash novel is a sequel to Beltorchica's Children, which is roughly the same story as CCA but different enough to be its own continuity.

          Most of the stuff he wrote was pretty based, minus the unexamined misogyny.

          I think he started going to therapy in the late 90s and, surprise, Turn A and G-Reco are missing a lot of the shitty misogyny!

          • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            He also got married and had a daughter, that had to have helped a lot. (It's very sad that so often it's only that kind of lived experience that gets men to stop being misogynistic though... but yeah.)

            • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Yeah, he had a lot of positive influence from women in his life (his therapist, his wife, his two daughters) led him to clear up the toxic attitudes. Really ridiculous if you think about it, but at least it worked out.

              Moon's Cacoon has some great articles about his life in the 90s - there are lots of Turn A spoilers throughout the site, though.