"OH YOU'RE VEGAN? LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I LOVE MEAT!"
OMG WHEN WILL THE NON VEGANS STOP.
Do you know how I know someone is a non vegan?!?
Because the NEVER FUCKING STOP TALKING ABOUT MEAT.
Like holy shit, they make eating meat their whole personality. Sad!
That is so laughably not even close to what happened here.
itt: someone made a minor faux pa by doing exactly what the post title was about and gets a friendly jab for it. Then a wrecker troll enters in and starts throwing a fit, saying extremely hostile shit, and breaking the comm rules but uses the excuse that they just wandered in because it was on the front page therefore it's perfectly fine that they're being a hostile, rule-breaking troll.
And now people are coming in to defend the poor innocent troll! :stalin-stressed: One would think that non-vegan communists would understand what it's like to have people angry at their mere existence. But time and again so many of them prove they've learned nothing from that experience and do the same thing to vegans whose existence they can't seem to handle.
I shouldn't be coming back here, this place is toxic, but that's not what happened at all. I'm not a troll or a wrecker, I'm only a troll when I give up on a clearly broken or unhinged conversation, if you want to call it that.
I shouldn’t be coming back here
No, you shouldn't.
this place is toxic
Your toxicity triggered a justified toxic reaction. Go figure. This is the same as a chud reddit troll logging onto hexbear, starting shit, then calling everyone on the site "toxic" because people responded to them with PPB.
I’m not a troll or a wrecker
Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. Maybe consider why a lot of your comments got removed and try to do a little self crit.
I’m only a troll when I give up on a clearly broken or unhinged conversation
Well at least you can admit to being one now, coming back in here and continuing a conversation while saying you 'gave up on the conversation.' :picard:
The friendly jab you're o upset about and think needs defending:
and yet you’re here in the vegan comm doing exactly what the post is talking about lmao
The very important discourse of person defending them that you think is not a troll and are in turn defending:
You’re a child with a stupid internet trained brain. I can post here.
Can your parents please pay my rent too?
Idc pls ban me from your shitty little dead rich kid lefty subreddit theres no way you act like this and have experienced anything that wasnt self inflicted or on exclusively the internet
Wah my dead subreddit you live for this interaction thats all this sub is thats all this op ever was
I realize that this dead subreddit is about self-sucking and patting your back for doing the bare minimum
And before you go all "buh both sIdEs!" this is a VEGAN comm. The troll even admits to wandering in off the front page which makes them think they're exempt from the rules. Booty being justifiably angry and hostile to the TROLL in the VEGAN comm is completely justified.
So what are you talking about?
I don't think it's necessarily fair to judge the site by its most hostile comm.
(and yes :im-vegan:)
Hmmm...yeah, you have a point there. Still, I'd say that kind of behavior is less present here than just about anywhere else on the internet. I do think Hexbear could use a stern lesson in assuming good faith, though.
Thank you jfc, like people HERE of all places can be coaxed into Veganism, THIS IS THE PLACE.
and yet you're here in the vegan comm doing exactly what the post is talking about lmao
couldnt make this shit up if i tried
Theyre not, why are you doing this to people who post here of all places? I feel like social media has trained us to treat all online spaces as somewhere you can shit where you also eat.
what is your interpretation of the comment in question? because i see a carnist coming to a post about carnists inserting their carnist perspective into discussions where it is irrelevant to talk about the carnist perspective on learning someone is vegan
my point is that if you're a carnist: fuck off. you can talk about being a carnist literally anywhere else on the internet, unfortunately including the rest of this website. i dont want your opinions on anything at all here.
Oh no, the poor little carnist didn't get applause for "respecting others" in the vegan community. fuck off. stop posting in the vegan community.
and you're a thin-skinned whiny baby who can't handle there being one tiny inactive sub-forum on one internet forum where it's not considered acceptable to post about your animal murdering habits. fuck off. you absolutely will not post here without being called out for your crimes.
also, just to be clear, carnists are explicitly not allowed to post here according to the rules. you will soon be banned from the comm. as soon as the mods wake up or whatever.
genuine question: do you not see how you're completely proving the point of the post right now? we have literally one comm on this site where you're not allowed to advocate murder, and you feel the need to come in here and shout "I LOVE MURDER WHY ARE YOU BEING SO MEAN TO ME"
Im vegan just clarifying lol can you ask your parents to pay my rent as well
oh ok great so you're just doing this all in the spirit of being a reddit debate bro. fortunately, omni apologists are also explicitly not allowed to post here and you should still get banned.
fuck off
Babystepping is for libs, and we’re not here to pat you on the back.
From the rules of the comm. When a carnist comes here and makes a completely uncalled for comment saying, "I love murdering animals, but when I learn that someone else doesn't like murdering animals, I graciously choose not to fly into a bloodthirsty rage" my response is, "Stop posting in the vegan comm." It's a reasonable request. Carnists posting in the vegan comm are not being nice to the hexbear users who prefer to have a comm free from carnists.
Again i need rent money, its hard out here just ask ur parents for me theyll probably say yes if you cop this same attitude
This wasn't funny the first time, it's certainly not funny the third time. It's just :cringe:
theres no way you act like this and have experienced anything that wasnt self inflicted
says the fucking loser throwing a tantrum because they were told the vegan comm is for vegans not carnists
the very serious adult with very real adult problems just cant stop throwing a fit due to the existence of a rule they dont agree with on a subforum :very-smart:
Firstly, all comms are basically dead. Only posts in 2-3 comms get any attention (dunk tank, cth, news) and that’s because they lack any identity of their own and are just discount main.
Secondly, you should read the rules to the comm before you post/comment there.
Thirdly, c/vegan is a a special place. It’s a relic of a bygone era, when Hexbear tried to open its doors to another subreddit it felt was going through tough times (like CTH did). This was VCJ. There was a moment when the Founders of Hexbear thought this place could be more than just for shitposts. It could be a place where all manner of (left-leaning) subreddits that were being threatened could reside peacefully. There was a hope that this would make us into a true force of leftism online (important because the Founders wanted us to do actual activism).
None of that happened. With just the first of such migrations, Hexbear fell into severe disarray. The new arrivals and the old settlers fought bitterly for days until there was a forceful and messy divorce. Most of VCJ left and with them left the dream for a better Hexbear.
People here celebrated, thinking they’d won something, not realising that even if they’d won this battle, all they’d secured was an ever darkening future. Since then, more and more people have left, shuttering entire comms that now lay abandoned without a single post for months.
All who are left just huddle together, stoking the flames of this dying site with dunks and bitter struggle sessions.
VCJ is not the only time HB tried bringing in another leftist community. This happened to multiple other communities when they tried to join. HB users have repeatedly abused and harassed new communities until they gave up and left. VCJ is simply the last community that tried, bc who would try again after that?
I didn't know all of that, shame to say I really like this website most of the time as it is.
Then stop going its comms and being a petty, hostile troll?
Motherfucker you are posting in !vegan@hexbear.net you're the one seeking attention :bird-screm-2:
I never pay attention to what /c/ it is, just what's on front page, it's not like that. This is a mostly dead sub too so I think it's reasonable for rando's to find themselves stepping in shit.
I never pay attention to what /c/ it is
Well, you fucking should. Different comms have different rules
They're not "defending" anyone. What was the egregious, cruel thing said to their comrade that required them to so valiantly step in?
"and yet you’re here in the vegan comm doing exactly what the post is talking about"
What a horrible (yet accurate) thing to say to someone. It must be defended against.
I'm also not just going to take someones word for it that they're not a carnist when they're saying all the things a typical carnist would and shitting all over the vegan comm with stuff like
Wah my dead subreddit you live for this interaction thats all this sub is thats all this op ever was
How is this person not banned from here yet?
They started off pissy and immature because they didn't like the miniscule pushback a nonvegan got for doing what they post is talking about. Booty is completely justified for being angry. If you don't see why they're being a troll then you're either choosing not to see it or you haven't been witness to how trolls on the internet behave, which I find hard to believe.
I don't assume the worst of my comrades, I take a look at a person's behavior and judge accordingly. And I don't think this troll is a vegan comrade for the same reason I wouldn't think someone who claims to be a communist but comes on hexbear and picks fights defending neoliberalism in the exact same tired ways that outright neolibs do.
Maybe don't assume the best of people who claim to be your comrade but then act like an anticommunist from now on.
They were attacking a comrade for pointing out the rules of the vegan community wtf are you talking about
When both sides of a conversation are being inflammatory but only one of the sides is correct, I take the side of the one who is correct. Carnists aren't allowed in this community, carnist apologists aren't allowed in this community. So when a carnist apologist comes here and starts shitflinging, the vegan flinging shit back at them is 100% in the right.
i wont give you anymore of my attention because this is clearly what this is all about.
:wonder-who-thats-for:
