Idk, man. This just looks like your standard libertarian grift to me.
At first, I was like holy shit 16k to give birth?!
And then I realized that's the price after insurance :scared:
I don't think he has insurance. It says he turned down Medicaid. I think that's just the "negotiated rate" he got from telling the hospital he can't afford it
No. The fee schedule will be, like, $10M.
Then the insurance company (or the billing department, depending) will claim you got a 99.9% discount.
Ah. I'm thinking of my local hospital's fee schedule. Not the medicaid schedule. My mistake.
:my-hero: We have to do something about these low birth rates.
$16k in debt to have one child.
:melon-musk: Interesting.....looking into it.
Why would you ever do a home birth? Hospitals exist for a reason
Lotta crunchy types do this, bc they don’t want their newborns having blood samples taken, or vitamin K shots, or don’t believe dying in childbirth is a thing. Antivax mentality as far as I can tell.
My kid was born with the cord around his neck and basically ripped my wife open on the way out so I’m pretty grateful to have been in a hospital setting :shrug-outta-hecks:
There’s a reason we do it in hospitals, shit is extremely dangerous
A very good friend of mine almost died in childbirth for her first kid and for some fucking reason decided to do a home birth for the second because she doesn't like doctors. I'm glad she's still alive.........
Putting your wife or yourself (depending on who believes in the woo ideology) and child at a huge increase in the chance of dying to open the libs is something else.
It’s not even owning the libs a lot of the people who do it are libs, it’s like this weird thing going on with an overlap of yoga and reactionary ideology/purity fetishism. Homeopathy falls in the same bucket
Yeah it was all routine stuff but outside of a hospital it would have been ugly
Just think of how many people you know that delivered by C section, either mom or baby wouldn’t be here without that intervention, and we’re talking 2 minutes to get you from delivery to the operating table right down the hall they are on standby
That’s 32% of births btw
Glad everything turned out okay! Yeah it's wild to me how many people choose to do something that's already incredibly dangerous in the riskiest way possible. Crunchy granola people really ride my nerves with this shit.
God the term "crunchy" to describe a person is so fucking revolting in that context and I can't read it without being completely thrown off, I just imagine this fucking dried mucosal film flaking off from behind someone's ears and hair and neck and it's audible and oh GOD, I know that's not the etymology but I can't not think about it
IDK about this person, but the medical system in the imperial core does a lot of work to belittle and degrade certain types of people, especially poor, indigenous, homeless and addicted peoples. Eventually people just begin to feel alienated and seek other options where they're not treated like subhumans.
Dignity is really important to people.
I'll just leave this here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-hospital-sterilization-1.6188269
Yeah you raise a good point comrade in that there is a vulnerability to engaging with a health care system that you don't trust to consider you as a human being - a lack of expectation of dignity in this context is also a safety concern
Iirc, it can be a fair option in the context of the US under medical guidance
That is, if it's medically assessed as a low-risk birth (definitely not breech), and attended by a medically competent professional, then the outcomes are equivalent to low-risk births in US hospitals
But all the home births I've been near were done on principal, with little to no medical assessment, and a doula (or pseudo-doula? Idk) without actual medical training. The people I've seen do them have all been "science is a lie" types
But all the home births I’ve been near were done on principal, with little to no medical assessment, and a doula (or pseudo-doula? Idk) without actual medical training. The people I’ve seen do them have all been “science is a lie” types.
Yeah exactly
I don’t think doulas require any sort of certification, you could advertise as one right now if you want to
I feel bad for this person. A difficult child birth can be very traumatic, but :jesus-christ: you would hope that this situation makes them think "damn, maybe the market doesn't have my best interests in mind"
I can not contibute to stealing from my fellow citizens, but can I have your money anyways?
Both can be true. Calvinist philosophy has been blended into most Protestant denominations in the US, particularly concentrated among Evangelicals. Interestingly, the important mechanisms in Calvinism are also being blended into non-Protestant denominations of Christianity here too
John Brown killed enough slavers to get a pass from me on all the other stuff, but he was kind of a hot mess. Vicious at punishing his children, abysmal husband, wanted to replace the US with a slightly-better (i.e. no slavery) theocracy, had a hilarious perspective on Harriett Tubman
He's a fucking hero and I have no doubt at all that his Calvinist beliefs played a role in galvanizing him to action. Unfortunately, it's very rare for it to galvanize people to do anything other than evangelize and ban books
You should have done your due diligence in advance and simply chosen an inexpensive hospital where complications don't happen.
he said "our home birth" so what he should have done was simply chosen a better pairing of gametes that wouldn't turn breach
I'm considering signing up for twitter blue and just very frequently reposting large sections of Marx and Lenin's writing, as much as can fit in the text box, as a bit.
I have considered this too but instead of sections of writing it would be quotes from famous figures that people don't expect. Such as Einstein's thoughts on Lenin.
If they're going to make blue ticks automatically have visibility at the top of a thread then that can definitely be weaponised with the right content. Parenti posting would work too.
But then you’re giving :melon-musk: money :kombucha-disgust:
Yeah but if it creates some more communists it's potentially worth it if someone can put up with the feeling of being dirty for the rest of their life.
If you are serious about using this to impact future AI: https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.10149
Much more fertile soil for comedy to be sure. I mean look at this thing, it’s a work of art
I miss the days of old
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I don't want to admit I'm so poor that i can be in Medicaid so instead I'm begging you guys to give me money.
"hey you've all already paid for me to be covered through taxes and insurance, but I don't want to use that. Can you please pay again, but directly to me this time?"
