Libs, walking straight into chud talking points and framing in a blissfully innocent attempt at "nuance" since...1650? Earlier? Fucked if I know they've always been this way.

The usual GC types are already making out-of-context clips.

Uphold TC69 thought, combat liberalism, We love and fight with our Trans Comrades!

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm seeing a lot of my centrist and lib friends "care about kids" nowadays and it's fucking depressing.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I always turn that around and say "and the kids who are trans? what about them? What specific actions are you proposing to ensure they get what they need as quickly as possible?"

      It shuts them up pretty fast when they realise their answer is "Suffer because I really hope my kid isn't trans and the problem will go away on its own and I am actually exactly like the boomers in 1995 who are afraid their child is gay that I mock over my Pinot Noir."

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Thanks for this. It's gonna come up more and more, and honestly it's not my strongest issue to debate.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I know an older woman (late GG/Early Boomer) and she is cis and white and centre right devout Anglican. And she is desperately trying to get her late Gen X children to accept their Son who is falling into a cycle of despair. It's heartbreaking (though we do what we can and the kid is being introduced to networks that will help.

          To Combat Liberalism isn't just a meme, it does sometimes mean we need to be "THAT GUY" over dinner.

          • ButtBidet [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Super agree, comrade. Thanks for helping me prepare. :fidel-salute-big:

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Guy I talk to online was just asking questions about the sanctity of women's sports. Openly admitted he doesn't actually follow women's sports (and thus obviously doesn't actually give a shit). That was the moment I stopped respecting him.

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'd say "when have you cared about women's issues before?" Because most of the guys I see going down this path are actual chuds and not feminists.

        Although I'm not really knowledgeable about this sort of thing, trans women in women's sports is outrageously small. Like I'm assuming that it's maybe double digit number of cases in most countries, if that. The same people will minimise climate change and covid which literally kill/ will kill many millions.

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      You mean in a Satanic Panic 2.0 sense, or something else? I've noticed a lot of "caring about kids" that seems like a mistranslation of "wanting to force children into Christian Totalitarianism".

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        There's lots of different manifestations, but most commonly say

        CW: massive transphobia

        "kids imagine stuff all the time, we shouldn't let the multi billion dollar medical industry profit off these kids"

        Ya I know must of these treatments are reversible puberty blockers and these "kids" are all 15 and older.