The 24-year-old passenger stepped in after the vagrant, identified by sources as Jordan Neely, 30, began going on an aggressive rant on a northbound F train Monday afternoon, according to police and a witness who took the video.
“He starts to make a speech,” freelance journalist Juan Alberto Vazquez said in Spanish during an interview Tuesday, referring to the disturbed man.
“He started screaming in an aggressive manner,” Vazquez told The Post. “He said he had no food, he had no drink, that he was tired and doesn’t care if he goes to jail. He started screaming all these things, took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground.”
That’s when he said the straphanger came up behind Neely and took him to the ground in a chokehold — keeping him there for some 15 minutes, Vazquez said.
Of course the article itself buries the lead that this is not some random asshole passerby, who you could reasonably doubt wouldn't know that putting someone in a headlock for an extended period of time is absolutely lethal.
The straphanger — who sources said is a Marine veteran — was taken into custody and later released without charges. The investigation is ongoing and authorities were waiting on autopsy results before deciding whether to pursue charges against the younger man, sources said.
...Jesus Christ so the guy was just fucking talking to himself? Welcome to fucking public metro and encountering people not being given any mental health assistance, just mind your own business and maintain a self aware area around yourself. Americans are fucking piss pants in understanding that 9/10 people having a breakdown just want some fuckin' space. Fuck this guy hope he gets fucking charged.
Let's not engage in the same nonsense these libs do, this guy didn't need mental health support, he needed food and water. He wasn't mentally ill, he was in pain from hunger and thirst.
You’re not wrong but I also wanna note that “pain” from hunger, thirst, homelessness, etc. isn’t exclusive to physical pain. That shit is traumatizing and mental/emotional torture
Truth, at least a material base needs to be established to meet physical needs before further help can be given (basic Maslow's shit). Another case of America delende est in which if you become homeless you will likely be murdered by a random fellow citizen for being homeless.
Vazquez said he had mixed feelings about the fatal encounter — particularly since he said Neely had not physically attacked anyone on the train before he was taken down.
“I think that in one sense it’s fine that citizens want to jump in and help. But I think as heroes we have to use moderation,” he said.
“This would never have happened if the police had shown up within five minutes,” he added. “Then we’d be talking about a true hero. It’s complicated.”
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Like, how do you even claim self-defense in a situation like this?
"Yeah, I feared for my life because he was unconscious, who knows what sorts of dream demons he could conjure if I didn't finish the job?"
I'm posting a link to the article, because OP is a Lib who doesn't post sources; but there is no way in hell that a he can make a credible self-defense claim in this situation, certainly not in New York at any rate.
Of course the article itself buries the lead that this is not some random asshole passerby, who you could reasonably doubt wouldn't know that putting someone in a headlock for an extended period of time is absolutely lethal.
God I hate journalists
...Jesus Christ so the guy was just fucking talking to himself? Welcome to fucking public metro and encountering people not being given any mental health assistance, just mind your own business and maintain a self aware area around yourself. Americans are fucking piss pants in understanding that 9/10 people having a breakdown just want some fuckin' space. Fuck this guy hope he gets fucking charged.
Let's not engage in the same nonsense these libs do, this guy didn't need mental health support, he needed food and water. He wasn't mentally ill, he was in pain from hunger and thirst.
You’re not wrong but I also wanna note that “pain” from hunger, thirst, homelessness, etc. isn’t exclusive to physical pain. That shit is traumatizing and mental/emotional torture
Truth, at least a material base needs to be established to meet physical needs before further help can be given (basic Maslow's shit). Another case of America delende est in which if you become homeless you will likely be murdered by a random fellow citizen for being homeless.
Wait so he choked a guy to death bc he… was speaking loudly?
:us-foreign-policy:
:wtf-am-i-reading:
"This angry Black man made me fear for my life."