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      • ChapoChatGPT [any]
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        One way ideology expresses itself in fiction is that narratives are set up to justify whatever actions the creator ideologically supports. The creator has full control over the world they're creating, so the very act of setting up a scenario that justifies genocide or torture or murder is ideology. Home Alone is another example, basically a suburbanite violence fantasy about torturing and maiming the Other, but the way it's written the violent acts are justified because the Other "deserved it". But the whole idea of the Other deserving it is an assumption baked into white suburbanite ideology.

        All that being said, (and having not read the manga, and the anime isn't finished yet last I checked so idk) AoT the anime doesn't have to be read as endorsing fascism yet imo. Rather it has portrayals of fascist influences and motivations in various characters and factions. The show illustrates how strongly narratives and symbols tie into fascism, how mythology can bring people together to willingly go along with terrible crimes. A recurring theme is how every faction claims they're "trying to save humanity" while committing mass murder, with ever increasing stakes and consequences. It shows fascist justifications and mythology taken to their logical conclusion. I'm hoping the ending doesn't force a fascist-friendly interpretation.

        And sometimes I'm in the mood for some edgy, violent, dramatic slop that reminds me of my childhood. edit: as in a show I watched as a teen, not I had to kill titans as a child lmao

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      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        He could destroy their military and not… y’know, murder every last man woman and child on the entire planet.

        His power was effectively unlimited. He could do anything he wanted, but he chose genocide.

        This would be like if North Korea decided to start a nuclear war instead of defending themselves with nukes.

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          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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            All those same things happened to his comrades and they tried to stop him from doing it.

            So yeah, he’s pure evil and totally wrong.

            An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. No one deserves to suffer for things done by people that happen to look like them.

            Most Jewish people indeed did not try to genocide Germans. Any that felt they had to were just wrong and deliberately choosing revenge.

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              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                I thought You're saying what he is doing makes sense from his perspective?

                Which is why I pointed out it doesn’t make sense even then and would make him evil.

                “What else could he do?” Implies a subjectively reasonable course of action.

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                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                    Yeah I was explaining how he ended up at the place he did,

                    You didn't, because his compatriots notably did not end up that way despite enduring very similar hardships. More explanation would be needed about what sets Eren apart from everyone else who lives to see that part of the story.

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        what else could he do?

        This is a completely ridiculous question to ask. With Eren's motivation revealed, he's basically committing something similar to a false flag attack, but with the "attack" being a genocide of like 2/3 of the planet's population, in order to unite the races against him. That's a harebrained solution to a problem of racial conflict and if his actual motivation was ever discovered, it would his re-integrated patriots appear as conspirators and likely just get pogrommed. Also he literally kills most of the people on the planet in order to do this.