Sometimes, we eat during meetings - or rather, they eat. I can confirm from the food served and their willingness to eat it that very few, if any of them, are vegan. I always decline food but don't say why, but eventually, I'm sure someone's going to ask.
And that's the moment I've been dreading. I've been on Hexbear since it first went online. I've seen, firsthand, how much non-vegans - even the communists here, who have better politics than 99% of the people I know - fucking hate us. I'd go so far as to say at this point that I'd be more comfortable telling an average lib I'm vegan than I would a communist. At least the lib will probably just see it as a strange personal choice rather than accusing me of being a fifth columnist.
IMO, people irl are way nicer when you say you’re a vegan. It’s only online (and probably behind my back) that people say shit.
Tell them you’re vegan. Be strong and unbothered by their questions, teasing etc. Don’t try to “convert” them, unless someone asks.
its part of the validation complex the internet produces, yea? as long as we're all posting we're never breaking the moralism death spiral.
Whenever I have to reject food, I just say it's because I'm vegan since it's the best opportunity to bring it up.
I'm vegan btw :im-vegan:
Yeah I am usually specific that I " don't " eat something, rather than I "can't " eat something if that makes sense.
Also the longer you are vegan I find it gets easier to tell people. People will often ask how long you have been vegan, and I know it's not right but it feels like they respect it more when your answer is in years.
I used to feel quite silly when I would refuse meals or food and people would ask me and I would have to say I had been vegan for like 3 days.
Anyways stay strong we do it for the animals
In all likelihood they won't give a shit and will even try to accommodate you. They might do a bad job it for various reasons like not knowing how to cook something which isn't borger, or going to the store and buying a pack of impossible borgers because they think what vegans want is a venture capital funded simulacrum of animal cruelty. What you should do is angle yourself into the position of organization grillmaster, and teach them what good food tastes like.
Yeah I don't think our comrades here hate us, nor will your org hate you I honestly don't get where this is coming from
I notice you're a pretty recent reg so you haven't been around for most of it, but we regularly have to deal with shit like this in our own comm. Hell, even in my recent thread asking for more community mods, we had like three different people come in to antagonize us. I'd go so far as to say pockets of Reddit are more vegan-friendly than anywhere on Hexbear because places like r/vegancirclejerk have large and active mod teams that quickly take out the trash.
I've been here since day one, this is just a new account.
I didn't really see any evidence that we're inherently hated here from what you posted. Comrades disagreeing about whether veganism is communism isn't hating your comrade. I'm not saying it has never happened, but thinking it happens so much that you couldn't expect any other response from your fellow organizers feels a bit off.
I think "Y'all really have perfected the art of the moralist bludgeon" in response to trying to clarify my position - again, in our own comm - goes a bit beyond mere disagreement.
Sounds like they were frustrated at the conversation to me. If someone in my life responds that way to me I don't assume they hate me.
I could see that if it happened once, but I've seen so many people deliberately come into this community to argue and respond like this when we try to explain ourselves that I can't attribute it to anything except active, sustained hostility.
Just say you're vegan. Just keep it matter of fact. Fuck what they think.
Like others in the thread I haven't seen any special hate irl. People are pretty normal about it. On SRA camping trips people sometimes make an effort to make vegan meals like curry even though I'm usually the only one along. And there are whole left orgs like Food Not Bombs that are vegan. Who knows, there might be other members like you who are afraid to be seen.
You have spent more time thinking about this than 99.99% of carnists, so you will probably have a winning response to any sort of questioning/dismissive swipes without actually starting an argument. Carnists probably unconsciously know this too, nobody wants to discuss veganism with me unless they have genuine questions (which I'm happy to answer).
I'm not vegan. My org intentionally has vegan options or all vegan to accommodate various dietary requirements (since vegan is also Halal as long it's not alcoholic).
It's right up in the title of the comm: "Carnism is animal abuse." Surely they're familiar with the sentiment.
