She said i should see someone who had experience with "extremism" and "racism"

I had to fight the urge to call her a PMC radlib

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      I don't get the point of your comment. Whiteness being a made up construct doesn't mean you can't talk about white people as a general entity, especially when that construct plays a huge role in society. And ethnicities are just as much social constructs as race

      I don't agree with OP, I feel like they're being edgy just for the sake of being edgy, but even though race is technically bullshit that doesn't mean we get to dismiss the fact being white actually matters and means something, changes the way you're treated in society, etc.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        I agree with you, I just like to joke that white people aren't real because it confuses CHUDs.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Are you new here? Where did you come from? This is a very high level of liberalism for the vibes here.

          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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            Ironic engagement with anglo racism is like wrestling a pig in the mud.

            You're gonna get covered in shit and the pig is still gonna be happy

            • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              You said white then you said Anglo. You understand they are different right?

              White isn't a race, it is a social class. We add or remove people from it as we see fit. We are going to start adding Mexicans to it so we can destroy their identity and pay them to oppress other groups. Just like we did to the Japanese or the Irish.

              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                I was referring to the superstructure of anglo culture that the vast majority of racial ideology in the west permeates out of.

                You should assume leftists know basic ass shit like 'white as a social class'

                • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  You doing alot of lib posting for me to assume anything about what you know.

                  You aren't selling me on why I shouldn't hyperbolicly hate the system here

                  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                    If you are okay with indirectly legitimizing the very racial hatred you are making an ironic parody of, keep at it.

                    It reminds me of the libs ironically implying their political rivals are 'gay' as a way to insult them. "Because they'd be uncomfortable with it".

                    They never fucking listened to me on that being wrong, either.

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Except there aren’t any racist white people here right? At least in theory this is a leftist space where we can ironically be racist against whitoids and there’s not really any wrestling or pigs…

            • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              To whom? This is a splinter of a subreddit based on the dirtbag left. Obscenity is one of the few things we have going for us. Only commies and cops here and I am not going to liberalize my posting to appeal to the cops.

                • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                  This board was created just so we could use genocidal language aghast whites and other undesirable grousp.

        • mar_k [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Fascism is a stretch lol. I mean yeah anti-white racism is stupid, but there's zero systemic discrimination and minimal meaningful social racism against white people, so you can't really say it has the same weight as any other racism. And when there is anti-white racism it's usually a reaction to a racist society. But honestly I feel like OP's straight up just being edgy out of boredom

          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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            1. Racism is a fascist belief.

            2. Countering a racist society with 'ironic' and insincere racism that doesn't contain real hatred is engaging with a fascist belief - even if from the opposite direction.

            3. Without hatred, you are wrestling in the mud with fascists. They love that shit. Just kill them instead.

            Thus, fascist drivel.

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              This is just redditor reverse racism debatelord crap derived from rationalized idealist first principles instead of a materialist and historical description of race relations on Earth, which are overwhelmingly one sided

              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                Whatever

                If engaging in race theory makes you happy just fucking do it I'm not gonna stop you

                • mar_k [he/him]
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                  engaging in race theory

                  ??? Is no one supposed to acknowledge race/its implications in society just because it's not a real thing genetically?

                  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                    i'd sorta expect the people trying to put an end to it to not engage in shitflinging in regards to a fake ass theory, yeah

                    expanding that statement to cover all racial discussion in society at all is just you winning an argument against yourself

                  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                    I’m saying race theory as dividing people into arbitrary groups is wrong.

                    Races don’t exist - the very concept was invented by extremely bigoted and racist people to justify colonial oppression of innocent people.

                    Playing into racial divisions, even ironically is just something the left should refrain from. It legitimizes and reinforces that ideology.

                    Mind you, I DO think discussion of racial disparity is necessary and good In a society full of racists. I’m just attacking racially charged antagonism e.g “genocide the whites” or “sterilize whitey”. Whites may not be a race, but that sort of talk IS racially charged and contextualized.

                    Even coming from a place of irony, there is no reason to go there.

            • mar_k [he/him]
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              Idk still don't see them as the same thing. It's like saying anti-Italian/anti-French jokes are the same as anti-Roma/anti-Aboriginal jokes.

              • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                I wonder if we need to consider context such as historical and current levels of power and persecution instead of using blanket moral statements decreed from the heavens

            • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Racism is a fascist belief.

              No, it is not lmao. Racism predated fascism by centuries. It is reactionary, but not fascist. Not all reactionary beliefs are fascist. Fascism is a particularly form of reaction that arose out of imperialist capitalism's attempt to crush labor while racism has largely been part of capitalism since the beginning, if not earlier.

              Countering a racist society with ‘ironic’ and insincere racism that doesn’t contain real hatred is engaging with a fascist belief - even if from the opposite direction.

              Racism has absolutely nothing to do with hatred, but with a particular ethnic group, (in the context of this thread, people of European descent) holding hegemonic power over everyone else. With this understanding, we can see how "combating hate" doesn't actually do anything because hatred is an ephemeral emotion, not a system of dominance. The white supremacist society must be dismantled regardless whether or not the people who hold power (ie white people) hate everyone else. If anything, the hatred of this white supremacist society, expressed vulgarly as "fuck whitey," can be harnessed towards its destruction with the understanding that as the struggle progresses, "fuck whitey" gets refined into "fuck this white supremacist power structure."

              Without hatred, you are wrestling in the mud with fascists. They love that shit. Just kill them instead.

              Nobody here is wrestling in the mud with fascists. What the fuck does that even mean? Actual fascists just get banned.

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