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  • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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    I live in the deep south in the hills. You quickly learn the difference between working class and working poor. I already talked about how alot of these chuds are gatekeepers to good paying jobs and use nepotism to keep certain people out of trade jobs. That's how they're able to afford all those guns they wave in people's faces at fascist rallies and jacked up trucks while the opposition are left helpless. They also infest unions like cockroaches and bring in their bullshit politics to weaken them while reaping union benefits. They are the working class but they sure as hell ain't poor.

    We need to start updating our language for 2020. It's also why i really truly don't care about that red bandana shit. The people that fought at blair mountain are dead and the meaning of words change. In fact the Appalachian part of my state is a fucking no go zone for minorities. I'm country as hell but I dont fuck with rednecks. Redneck revolt wasn't even that successful before it disbanded because it kept relying on the past to recruit red state chuds into the fold. It ain't working on them unless they're already sympathetic. I will say the SRA certainly got that right in regards to their gun club.

    The racism in other parts depends. At a job site everytime I went across the corner to check leaks in pipes a coworker would get quiet because he was talking out of his ass about politics and didn't want to say anything around a black person. Phony fuck lol. It's like that alot smile in your face but chuds behind close doors. This is where I suspect alot of them get that "but I have a black friend"shit when they get caught.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Just wanted to respond to you're first point about nepotism within unions as being something that very much exists within NYC politics and these folks are also largely speaking republicans (although maybe some of the younger ones would vote for someone like Max Rose). Some of them would also probably describe themselves as Trump democrats where they're a fan of people like Cuomo who has a lot of support from heavy industry and construction unions.

      It's important to remember that these can be high paying jobs, netting people 200k a year.

      It really needs to be understood that blue collar does not mean you make more or less money than white collar workers anymore. There are a lot of white collar jobs that pay 30k a year and blue collar jobs that pay 100k a year.

      • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The working poor youth specifically are ripe for radicalization. Especially warehouse and call center workers. I worked in both those jobs and the misery is just beyond describing to the point Im surprise I haven't heard about people going postal in their workplaces.

      • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        What te SRA does right is how much in the present they are and how they are a big tent org that recruits leftists from all walks of life. They even had a recruitment campaign for furries lol. They also don't rely on past leftist movements to appeal to rural chuds. Some centrists gun owners were willing to discuss socialism with them simply because they really like all the combloc guns posted on their subreddit.

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      Redneck revolt wasn’t even that successful before it disbanded

      It might be surprising to Redneck Revolt to hear they disbanded, since they haven't.

      • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Yes they have. Founder was accused of rape and the org handled it terribly so a bunch of people left and the org died.

        Unless you're talking about the john brown gun club. That existed before redneck revolt.

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          According to what? I saw that they're still active in multiple chapters.

          Aside from that though your comment makes it sound like Redneck Revolt collapsed because they didn't make any inroads, not because of internal shit.

          • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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            You're really late to the party with this. Alot of it is easily searchable cause I saw it unfold as it was happening. What "chapters" are active ? There are two john brown gun clubs, trigger warning, and something called C.O.AL that use to be part of the org.

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              If it's easily searchable I ain't finding shit. I'm still seeing articles talking about how Redneck Revolt is active though.

              • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                I haven't found those articles about active chapters. I did find alot of statements about chapters leaving to do their own thing....

                • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                  Do you have any because as you said, it's easily searchable but I've seen nothing.

                    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                      Is there a reason you can't just link me? I literally googled that shit and found nothing.

                        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                          Just make the post outside the reply and paste that in then reply

                          • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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                            4 years ago

                            The didn't work either so notebook

                            https://davestrano.noblogs.org/responses/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/74w00g/torch_antifascist_network_statement_on_dave/ https://psjbgc.org/blog/puget-sound-john-brown-gun-club-leaves-redneck-revolt-network/ https://m.facebook.com/PDLSL/posts/2531614826866297

                            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                              There doesn't appear to be much about it being dead though. These look like things I found but then I've seen discussions on Redneck Revolt since the incident so it's clearly still around.

                              • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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                                The last time I was in reddit one of the organizers for redneck revolt national org said they disbanded. Alot of former members in the SRA says it's dead and broke into splinter groups. And there hasn't been any activity from the org in two years. Those chapters you're talking about are probably just jbgc. It's dead Jim.