A Stanford professor who has researched unidentified aerial phenomena for the US government says he believes extraterrestrial intelligence has not only visited earth but “it’s been here a long time and it’s still here”.

Dr Garry Nolan also claimed that whistleblowers who have worked on “reverse-engineering downed craft” had recently given classified testimony to Congress, creating a “hornet’s nest in Washington”.

Dr Nolan, a Professor of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine who has published more than 300 research articles and holds 40 US patents, made the bombshell comments during a talk at the Salt iConnections conference in New York on Thursday titled “The Pentagon, Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Crashed UFOs”.

The respected researcher is one of the most accomplished scientists publicly studying the phenomenon, including by analysing the brains of people who say they’ve experienced a UFO encounter.

During the session, moderator Alex Klokus, founder and managing partner of Salt Fund, asked Dr Nolan, “Do you believe that extraterrestrial intelligence has visited planet earth?”

“I think you can go a step further — it hasn’t just visited, it’s been here a long time and it’s still here,” Dr Nolan replied.

“You know, people talk about the ‘Wow! signal’ looking for extraterrestrial intelligence. The ‘Wow! signal’ is that people see it on an almost regular basis, that’s the communication that’s already here.”

The ‘Wow! signal’ was a powerful 72-second, narrow-bandwidth signal picked up by Ohio State University’s Big Ear radio telescope in 1977 which has not been detected since, and has long been a source of speculation in the stargazing community.

Mr Klokus told Dr Nolan his statement would be “tough to believe” for many, asking him “what probability” he would assign.

“One hundred per cent,” Dr Nolan said.

“And that’s not just my opinion — the National Defense [Authorization] Act passed last year, signed by Biden in December, 30 pages of that is the establishment of an unidentified aerial phenomena office.”

Dr Nolan said that office, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which has 25 people working in it, had been tasked with “collecting the information across all of the US Department of Defense, intelligence offices, and collation of that into a uniform format for the very first time, and provision of that then to Congress”.

“Twelve US Senators have signed onto a document that basically says we want the information,” he said.

“The creation of a whistleblower program specifically that allows people from within who, I’m going to say this, have been working on the reverse-engineering programs, reverse-engineering of objects, so that they can come in and break their oaths but specifically just to talk to Congress and give that information in classified settings.”

He added, “And the most recent one that happened was just last weekend and it created quite a hornet’s nest in Washington.”

Asked by Mr Klokus what the “most compelling evidence” was for his claim, Dr Nolan said “you just need to look at what your government is doing right now about it”.

“Just go and look at the number of politicians on both sides of the aisle who have come together and signed off on this statement,” he said.

“What are they basing their opinions on? They’re basing their opinions on the dozens of individuals who in one manner or another have come forward and talked to them in classified settings.”

Dr Nolan said in addition he had “personal experience” with “people who, frankly, I know have worked or are working on the reverse-engineering programs”.

“Of downed craft,” he stressed.

“Now the first question that people will ask is, well if they’re so frigging advanced why are they crashing? Because what’s crashing is not actual living things. I use this example a lot — if you wanted to study a tribe of cannibals in the middle of the Amazon, are you going to go yourself and show up in the middle of the tribe and not hopefully become dinner? If you’re an advanced intelligence, you’re not going to put your life and limb at risk by coming here.”

Dr Nolan said “mostly what you’re seeing here are either drones or some sort of advanced AI or whatever it is”.

“We’re already dealing with an alien intelligence in our own emails, ChatGPT et cetera, we don’t know what it’s doing, so imagine if you were a million years ahead of us — how do you have a dialogue with something like that?” he said.

Dr Nolan also discussed his work analysing alleged materials from UAPs.

“What is it you hope to discover out of a material?” he said.

“A grain of silicon back in the ‘50s or ‘60s changed our culture and world. Something as small as that, the discovery of what you could accomplish with a little piece of germanium doped with the right elements changed our understanding.”

Alluding to the now-famous 2004 USS Nimitz incident off the coast of San Diego, Dr Nolan noted “we have multiple simultaneous sensor systems that have seen these objects go from 50 feet above the water to up to 14 miles and then back in less than a second”.

“It does stuff that we can’t do, we know that the Russians and Chinese are not doing … what is the physics that accomplishes that?” he said.

“What that tells you is we need to rethink our physics, first of all. We saw birds fly, it took us 3000 years and we figured out how to fly. But now we see these things doing this, so what is it that that lets us do?”

Dr Nolan said he knew “some of the physicists on the inside who work at some of these big defence corporations, who basically said here’s how you tweak general relativity to accomplish that”.

“But then how much energy is required to do it? Well more than the whole nuclear output of the planet per day,” he said.

“Who could do that? We can’t. Will we be able to do it in a thousand years? But if we had a piece of any of this, let’s say it’s a thousand revolutions ahead of us, a million revolutions ahead of us, even a tiny piece of knowledge from that could revolutionise what we’re doing.”

Mr Klokus asked if Dr Nolan was sure humans possessed “literal physical material to evaluate, to analyse”.

“Yes, 100 per cent,” he said.

“It’s there. I was working with a group about seven or eight years ago and I literally got within a few weeks of gaining access to one of the objects. And when the people who didn’t want us to gain access to it found out about it they pulled some bureaucratic administrative tricks and snatched it away.”

Mr Klokus remarked at one point, “I’m glad we’ve got some people here to witness these statements — I think they’re very consequential.”

Previous speakers at the Salt conference, billed as a “global thought leadership forum encompassing finance, technology and public policy”, include US President Joe Biden, Virgin founder Sir Richard Branson and former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt.

Dr Nolan’s comments come after the head of Pentagon’s new UFO office told Congress last month it had no credible evidence of aliens.

In a rare open hearing, AARO head Dr Sean Kirkpatrick said his team were reviewing more than 650 potential UFO cases.

Despite the unexplained sightings, Dr Kirkpatrick said there was no suggestion of alien activity.

“AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics,” he said at the hearing.

Most UAPs turn out to be “balloons, aerial systems, clutter, natural phenomena or other readily explainable sources”, Dr Kirkpatrick added.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    sorry but this sounds like :brainworms:

    buddy is scared of chatGPT being an "alien intelligence"(alien as in foreign to humans, I dont mean he thinks its literally extraterrestrial tech)

    fear of AI as an independent hostile intelligence is an easy rube flag, I'm tempted to bet money on this guy being into the Havana syndrome

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I dabbled into ufology a bit and I think I remember this guy being into all kinds of wacky shit like remote viewing and such, I wouldn't really take anything he says seriously.

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    it's hilarious when you go into UFO forums and see the comments are like. "I'm normally a skeptic when it comes to UAPs, but the part where he said there is an underwater alien city in the mid Atlantic ridge that is sending psychic projections to world leaders using pure-energy drones gave me pause ; it would explain a lot."

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It might make a decent Inside Job episode setting if the Netflix suits didn't fucking cancel it for more Boss Baby. :guts-rage:

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The sad thing is that they cancelled Inside Job because the leadership plain didn't like it. The one guy fighting for it left the company. So they just cancelled it, even if that ends up costing them money since season 2 (3-4) was already budgeted.

    • macabrett
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      1 year ago

      "I'm usually a huge skeptic, but this light reflection in the clouds in Vegas, a city known for having a lot of lights, is really crazy, it's definitely an alien and not reflected light."

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        1 year ago

        I pride myself on being a rational sceptic and critical of the US government, but I mean come on theres no way they would throw money at fringe concerns and pseudoscience for no reliable results or practical gains!

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    Absolute bollocks.

    If one country had the technology of an alien race ww3 would have started over it because the reverse engineering potential of any such craft is simply too threatening to allow anyone to have.

    Nobody has any such thing. This guy is a fruit.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Over here we also use it to describe anyone that's not all there but in a sort of friendly and not too demeaning way compared to other words.

    • mazdak
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    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Probably. I just wanted a reason to post AYYY LMAO. :posad:

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      there's something deeply unsettling about Nathan Myrvold

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Dr Nolan, a Professor of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine

    Immediately disregard the opinion of any STEMlord talking outside of their field of expertise.

    Except if you're writing a paper on the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis. In that case, enjoy your rich pool of data points.

  • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Work in ufology and related fields

    He was later approached by US intelligence officials and an aerospace corporation to "help them understand the medical harm that had come to some individuals, related to supposed interactions with an anomalous craft." ... he helped investigate the brains of around 100 patients, mostly "defense or governmental personnel or people working in the aerospace industry" ... The majority exhibited symptoms that were "basically identical to what's now called Havana syndrome"

    I didn't read the article in the OP, and I don't have to read any more of his wiki page to be convinced that this man is a complete grifter.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Thus my AYYY LMAO in the title. Was more a fun read than anything else.

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  • Mindfury [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    yall mf really posting news.com.au articles?

    (this is the cental website of all of Murdoch's australian newspapers - you've basically linked fox but unfiltered)

        • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          That's just the front page I'll need to read the whole article to find the nuggets of truth.

          Seriously though. Reading opposing viewpoints is good for you. If you only ever consume media that you agree with you are living in an echo chamber. How will be unable to recognize when your trusted sources are wrong when you don't practice analysing journalism? More than half of "leftist" commentators take a 50-100% wrong view on the war in Ukraine while many Conservatives are doing excellent analysis if you pick out the occasional brain worm.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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            1 year ago

            I think there's a difference between reading opposing viewpoints for little kernels of truth and believing even a single word on the aggregator site for all of Murdoch's News Corp tabloids in australia. I know it says it's Australia's Leading News Source, but it's genuinely on the same level as the National Enquirer or the Sun.

            • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              genuinely on the same level as the National Enquirer or the Sun.

              This is patently false and your instance otherwise just proves you aren't arguing in good faith or are simply ignorant.

              Every News company has shitty takes. The Guardian is just better at hiding their shitty takes while manufacturing consent for neoliberalism and neocolonialism. They are all garbage and you have to sift through them all. Furthermore they all give insight into the mind of our opponents.

              • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                1 year ago

                I don't know what your thing about the guardian is, I don't like them either. But that doesn't change the fact that you're trying to die on this hill defending a lifestyle article from an online tabloid, about a weirdo crank UFOlogist talking out his ass for the hundredth time.

                This is not a critical, underreported story being brought to light in a conservative newspaper that we're smearing just because it's a conservative source. This is a story about a sad, lonely old man begging for attention and only getting it from clickbait farms. Touch some grass, comrade.

                • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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                  Sure the story itself is silly and stupid but it does have useful information. This story shows the rot within american academia and the quality of hiring practices of the US Government.

                  Just because News.com prints trash like this doesn't mean the entirety of the site is bereft of any useful information as I originally said.

                  Touch some grass, comrade.

                  god that's cringe. go back to :reddit-logo: they probably still think this sort of thing is clever there.

            • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              You don't sift through news media and disregard the bias? Let me guess you believe every word printed in The Guardian and then you call me a lib.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      If sufficiently intelligent aliens exist so that they can actually get here than we humans would be comparable to insects, well bacteria actually.

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          yeah I mean obviously they need a new commodities market to combat the ever falling rate of profit withing interstellar capitalism

      • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        If sufficiently intelligent aliens exist so that they can actually get here than they would be smart enough to stay the fuck away in case whatever is going on in our brains is contagious.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I've heard this argument a lot but I think it's just edgy nihilistic bullshit. First of all you don't have a basis to claim that we'd either be insects or near-equals to these beings since we have no clue how any alien society would work or how advanced societies can even get.

        Secondly even if we were as insects to them that doesn't mean they wouldn't give a shit about what happens to us or at least Earth in general. Even in our shitty liberal societies we have dedicated conservationists that care a lot about "lower" life forms, imagine if the aliens had an actual communist society.

        Nobody really knows how it would play out if it turns out we've had ET visitation but "ayys are so advanced and we're so dumb and stupid and insignificants" is a really shallow analysis.

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    1 year ago

    Umm actually theres no aliens because general radahn used his magic to hold the stars

    • Teapot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Astel, Naturalborn of the Void, is on earth now, biding its time