Image is of Russian mercenary Frodonov Bagginsky, standing in the ruins of Bakhmut after the battle concluded.


After nearly a year of intense fighting for the town of Bakhmut, Russian forces have finally reached full control.

While tens of thousands of lives have ended in the area in and around Bakhmut, perhaps almost as interesting as the battle itself has been the war of narratives over it. The state propagandists in the West have spent a lot of effort muddying the waters about the battle for the city, to the extent that the two sides now live in effectively separate realities.

If you are pro-Ukraine, the reality you observe is that this was an excellent maneuver by the Ukrainians - as the Russians send in their troops in human wave attacks armed only with shovels, you have achieved a 1:7 casualty ratio in your favor. You have fundamentally weakened the Russian army because, for some inscrutable reason, they have decided to attack one of the strongest parts of your front line - this reveals the inherent stupidity of the Ruskies. Let them have the city for all you care - it has zero importance and you will soon recapture it. You are, in fact, one step closer to winning the war - far from losing it.

If you are pro-Russian, the reality you observe is that this was an excellent maneuver by the Russians. By utilizing your massive artillery advantage over the enemy side, sometimes achieving over ten times the number of shells fired on any given day, you can easily attrit enemy forces and you have done so, achieving a 1:7 casualty ratio in your favor. As Bakhmut is a central city in the fortification line, Ukraine has no choice but to defend it with all their strength, which allowed you to create a cauldron which has been the death of tens of thousands of troops, at the expense of only mercenaries. The logistical links that capturing the city has both created for you and severed for the enemy will make future campaigns easier, and you are now capable of advancing into territory that hasn't spent the last eight years being fortified by all NATO has to offer. You are, in fact, one step closer to winning the war - far from losing it.

While I would love to be a very smart enlightened centrist and go "Well, both sides have a point here..." all evidence I can discern points to the Russian position and away from the Ukrainian one. When Zelensky went to the US and spoke before Congress earlier this year, he said:

To ensure Bakhmut is not just a stronghold that holds back the Russian Army, but for the Russian Army to completely pull out, more cannons and shells are needed. If so, just like the Battle of Saratoga, the fight for Bakhmut will change the trajectory of our war for independence and for freedom.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

Here is the archive of important pieces of analysis from throughout the war that we've collected.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

This week's third update is here in the comments.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have decent analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the warzone.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist (but still quite reactionary in terms of gender and sexuality and race, so beware). If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Another big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia's army.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Need to see the tank + mraps to decide whether they're russians who have gone awol or whether they're some ukrainian op. Obviously has to be one or the other you don't just get this equipment off your local dealer.

    • jimbojambo [he/him]
      cake
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      edit-2
      1 year ago

      https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1660653749327544326

      According to this twitter post and others on RU telegram channels, some of the vehicles they had were American ones that had been transferred to Ukraine. No idea whether that is true or not and my knowledge of military equipment is shite tbh.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        That's a MaxxPro , 100% american. 440 were delivered to Ukraine in July/August.

        This group is probably Ukrainian posing as Russian so that they can go into Russian borders without upsetting the suppliers of their weapons. Excluding the recent supply of long range missiles by Britain everyone has been really careful about not supplying Ukraine with tools they can touch Russia with outside of Ukrainian borders because of fear that Russia will switch to heavier tactics.

        • cctaacc [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          From the low quality drone footage it seemed they used a T series model tank, either a T-64 or T-72, to bust through the border checkpoint, supposedly 2 IFVs were also used and a total of 9 APVs of the MaxxPro variety. If you want some brainworm food, the Ukrainian armchair generals are deflecting claims that these vehicles were obviously delivered by the Americans by saying you can buy them on the black market and thus this little fash group isn't part of the Ukrainian military but acting independently.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Yeah that's obviously bullshit. This is Ukraine performing an off-the-books operation for the weakest most obviously bullshit deniability ever.

            • cctaacc [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              Forgot to mention, the drone operator monitoring the operation is speaking Ukrainian not Russian so yeah.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                lol I wouldn't be able to pick that up they both sound exactly the same to me and I've tried. Easier to tell the difference between accents in some countries.

          • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            the Ukrainian armchair generals are deflecting claims that these vehicles were obviously delivered by the Americans by saying you can buy them on the black market and thus this little fash group isn’t part of the Ukrainian military but acting independently

            Which came first: the black market, or the weapons shipment to Ukraine?

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      you don’t just get this equipment off your local dealer.

      You'd be surprised what falls off trucks in Ukraine these days