I'm out of words to say about this.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    The return or resurgence of the Satanic Panic is something people love to call out, but this genuinely feels like it can culminate in something like that, children coached to tell stories of having their gender transed or being forced to wear makeup, broad bullshit laws used to convict people with no evidence, massive media circuses around OBVIOUSLY nonsensical and false claims.

    All the ingredients are there and have individually been there for a long time, but to me at least it didnt feel like they were being made into one big soup yet.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      :my-hero: is pulling the "will no one rid me of this turbulent priest" card for his chud devotees, and he has millions of potential targets for them, all because his ex left him for :chelsea-stare: and his daughter disowned him.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I'm really surprised there hasn't been some kind of high profile child martyr yet like you said. Some kid who got coached into lying about the content of a class taught by a trans person.

      I though that's what was going to happen when that Florida school put a Disney movie under investigation because a teacher showed it and one of the characters is openly gay. But it seems like even the most hare brained of chuds can't seem to twist this into something nefarious. "Teacher fired for showing Disney movie to kids" just doesn't seem to reach people unless you're terminally internet poisoned.

      The only thing I can point to for why it's not hitting yet is the Satanic Panic happened in the context of the 1980s and the current panic is happening with cameras everywhere and different standards for high profile litigation. There has yet to be a single photo, video, audio, etc. that shows a teacher forcing kids to be gay or trans or whatever, meaning it's stuck in this limbo of reactionaries screaming gibberish and pointing at innocent things that simply aren't what they claim to be. Also there's probably something to be said about how reactionaries are going after teachers, who are generally more class conscious than other professions, plus they've got unions.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        1 year ago

        The satanic panic also had the advantage of "legitimate" doctors and psychiatrists claiming that satanists had such occult powers and mastery over hypnosis, that they could erase both physical and mental scars from both victim and perpetrator.

        People would literally get told they ate kids but had their memory hypnotically locked away, then confessed to doing those crimes. I can't imagine that happening today.

        I mean, those same doctors are still active today but way more marginal, and still doing the cult grift.

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          1 year ago

          Also reactionaries wanted to forgive any confessors to such satanic crimes, those who didn't stupidly go to the cops became massive celebrities despite claiming to be mass murdering sex criminals who targeted anything and anyone living for the worst violence possible.

          Detransitioners barely get the most basic human courtesy, and those doctors who "dissent" disavow any involvement, merely being witnesses.

      • wild_dog [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        I’m really surprised there hasn’t been some kind of high profile child martyr yet like you said. Some kid who got coached into lying about the content of a class taught by a trans person.

        trans people make up like 1% of the population and because of systemic transphobia, it's incredibly hard to even be a trans teacher or be able to get a job of some level of authority at a school above lunch lady or janitor so there's an incredibly small crop of potential targets for this strategy, making it unlikely to be one that would bear much fruit. I think if someone went the coaching strategy, they'd pick a liberal cis teacher that's openly in favor of LGBT rights because there's a lot more of them to be potential targets.

        also it's very hard for transphobe to coach people the way you're talking about when transphobes don't understand basic concepts about trans people. you can't just say "my mom made me wear make up and that turned me trans" because most people would already recognize that type of behavior as a different type of abuse. that type of story wouldn't be able to hold up to scrutiny. Someone attempted something like this in 2016 or so and it failed. Basically a super reactionary divorced dad tried to sue his wife for child abuse claiming she turned their kid trans but when the story came out in court, none of it could hold up to cross examination especially when actual mental health professionals were brought in to testify. I'm not saying it's entirely impossible to do it, but it's an extremely hard story to make stick.