obviously this isnt targeted at anybody here, but ive noticed in european progressive liberal and leftist spaces there is more frequent terf-ish sentiment. why is it that in those spaces in america, it seems like transphobia is frowned upon more?

am i imagining this? is it really just the uk and spain?

  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    This might be completely off base, but here is my take one it.

    In the last 2-3 decades of America political life LGBTQ issues have been primarily furthered by the liberal class through their control of the cultural output (hence you see a lot of push back from the right when they decry "identity politics", "political correctness", and minorities & women ruining "their movies"). These same cultural products are less dominant in European countries and often compete with the nations own output. For this reason amongst others European sentiment in general is "lagging" on these issues.

    Furthermore European politics has in the last decade also seen a stark shift rightwards. With the crumbling of the neoliberal order, the failure of the EU to improve many peoples lives, it has become more difficult to make progress on liberal issues, and we've seen many countries revert to much more socially conservative postures.

    These are probably only partial reasons, as this stuff is typically very dependent on each countries culture.

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    the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival was a "feminist" music festival that had a "womyn-born womyn" only policy which didn't allow any transwoman musicians to perform OR any transwomen to even attend the festival or work there. it ran from the 1970s-2015, so there's a history of TERFs in US feminism

    • artangels [he/him]
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      oh absolutely. im not trying to excuse any of the disgusting shit in america, but i notice it more with europe now though.

    • artangels [he/him]
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      my friend told me about how a trans woman was murdered and terfs made a high profile politician delete his tweet calling her a woman (after she was KILLED!). like what the actual fuck.

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      fuckkkk

      not like youre far off from what i think though. did you hear that rupaul actually legitimately serioulsy own a fracking ranch? i have to admit i still like the show tho :/

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    The US has a shit load of problems, but the "live and let live" attitude a lot of Americans have towards politics is taken for granted and ends up counting for a lot when it comes to pushing for things like immigration or trans rights.

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      That doesn’t change the fact that only conservatives hate trans people in the us. No “radical feminists” against trans people there.

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    Europe may have terfs but they don’t have openly transphobic conservatives. That’s a US thing. There is no Trump in the EU banning trans people from doing what they want.