I tend to agree but I guess this is an interesting case where the users ARE the product (in terms of creating all the content as well as bringing in the ad revenue) so I suppose it could work?
Idk, a lot of subs already back on and lots of users there just down right don’t care, probably because of the lack alternative.
Wdym everyone could move to lemmy and complain about tankies under the bed endlessly
An organized boycott where the customers wield enhanced leverage over the company can work
Millions of Redditors being forced to touch grass? Is there hope for society yet?
:puzzled: Not like they're system operators... :frothingfash: :reddit-logo: staff can just unlock them...
And put what mods in charge? Reddit operates on a huge system of free mod labor.
There are definitely scabs willing to do it but the issue with that is the userbases are supportive of this action. If a scab team reopens a subreddit they will then face a user rebellion and I have not seen a single subreddit defeat a proper user rebellion outside of communist teams who just ruthlessly crack down and ban or shadowban all problem-causers.
Not entirely convinced that this is going to succeed though, I think reddit want these changes and will stubbornly accept whatever the repercussions are until it's pushed through. If that means some subs die or some teams blow up or the lasting consequences of permanent moderator relations being destroyed then so be it. It's all in service of the IPO.
The problem is the user base have to care about this, and from looking at the recent subs that goes on again, highly doubt it will work
Not entirely convinced that this is going to succeed thoug
I doubt Reddit will back down, but this will seriously damage the site and that's what I want.
The massive subs like worldnews or AskReddit didn't even shut down, I doubt :reddit-logo: cares about anything else. It's not a coincidence that a handful of moderators on there are in charge of hundreds of large subs.
Did you even read the OP?
Ahead of the Tuesday post, more than 300 subreddits had committed to staying dark indefinitely, SpicyThunder335 said. The list included some hugely popular subreddits, like r/aww (more than 34 million subscribers), r/music (more than 32 million subscribers), and r/videos (more than 26 million subscribers). Even r/nba committed to an indefinite timeframe at arguably the most important time of the NBA season.
The only thing Spez can threaten me with is not having to moderate and that's great. Moderating sucks because reddit makes it suck. The longer the strike goes on the more it presses a stupid man into playing stupid games. While it's very ideologically naive and lacks a sense of labour consciousness, the thing that tickles me about the strike is that most of the subreddits participating put it to some kind of user vote and received overwhelming support. My r/snackexchange post was the most upvoted of all time and not a single person in the thread, on the most babybrained website out there, was against me framing it in terms of labour theory of value. If Spez tries to replicate the coup in r/antiwork across the website, manually replacing thousands of mods, it's going to do more to kill reddit than anything else could. Those mods aren't paid in any way so we have nothing to lose while reddit stacks up bad publicity before its IPO launch and is pushed closer to making any of the bad choices they could make to resolve this. Any of those actions will inflame both the remaining mods and the userbase.
And if the strike does succeed that proves it can work. Participating in the next for something more is a button click. Even if that doesn't redefine what the website is, it destabilises it and pushes people off the platform. The more it's destabilised the more ElonMuskAtHome will fuck things up.
overwhelming support
The comments in big subs I'm in mostly complain about it. Making fun of mods for caring and being terminally online, but not realizing they're telling on themselves in not being able to deal with a subreddit being down for two days.
Also weird amount of people siding with Reddit on the API stuff. Maybe it was lurkers who decided to comment, but bootlickers always surprise me.
Now I'm getting treat pigs replying to me in the main coordination subreddit. They're big mad that they can't just go to any of the other subreddits for the same topic or make their own.
SpicyThunder335 notes that not everyone will be able to go dark indefinitely for valid reasons. “For example, r/stopDrinking represents a valuable resource for a communities in need, and the urgency of getting the news of the ongoing war out to r/Ukraine obviously outweighs any of these concerns,” SpicyThunder335 wrote.
:internet-delenda-est: oh no, not the 9957897th nazi propaganda channel
It's the same kind of important, these two things. Being there for your struggling alcoholic friend and reading about these events on the other side of the world. Imagine what could happen.
yeah if I wasn't reading the news disaprovingly who knows what Putin would do
Is Reddit not just going to override their control if this goes on?
They can, but the issue is replacing all the mods who do free labor for the site. Who would sign up to replace them after all this?
Loads of people. Most moderators are not great people in the first place (not ours though :stalin-approval:) and plenty more will jump at the opportunity for a small amount of internet power. The quality of moderation may tank for a while, but I doubt the admins care that much.
yeah but it's liable to piss the userbase off and drive people away. like if this goes two weeks, I doubt reddit as a site will recover.
President Xi please help, the redditors yearn for mods, please deploy 10,000 seasoned veterans of People's Internet Spam Farms as moderators to save us from occupying regime security forces of Eglin Air Base :xinternet:
Good thing The Eye has backups of the site, now to find a way to convert .zsv files to an easier to browse format and get the info with none of the assholes. Fuck that hellsite, been a long time coming, hope it ends up like Digg.
No, I've decided this is my opportunity to cut ties with :reddit-logo: completely
