Link to the tweet - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    1 year ago

    you can't engage with semiotics or gender roles if there aren't any.

    It definitely gets into a confusing space. Reminds me of the Contrapoints line about the Feminine Penis.

    If I'm alone in the woods, what gender is my penis? Do I feel natural growing a beard? What is my identity?

    Even cis people think about this stuff. Even cis people who don't have other people around to judge them for it.

    people with gender assert that they'd feel something in the woods or in an alien society with no concept of gender, and i have no reason to doubt them.

    I'd agree, to some extent. But without established social touchstones, I imagine a lot of what gender becomes is ultimately what you personally invent.

    You can have a sense of gender that would be utterly alien to a modern American. A person with a beard and a penis who feels right at home, but still conceives of herself as a woman, for instance.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      You can have a sense of gender that would be utterly alien to a modern American. A person with a beard and a penis who feels right at home, but still conceives of herself as a woman, for instance.

      i'm not sure how our woods woman is inventing the concept without any access to our culture? the labels we use to describe a poorly understood neurological feature only carry meaning because of the cultural context they arose in.