There's a link between this kind of reaction and the reaction people have to learning what happened to the Romanovs. Sure, there's a part of me that feels bad about death in general, but I can never shake the fact that real sorrow is seemingly reserved for the self-appointed main characters of life and history -- rich people.
Tons of poor people die every day. Their deaths are often worse, more degrading or agonizing, and typically because of things that rich people have decided for the rest of us, yet often written off as a consequence of personal shortcomings or poor choices.
But now that these rich people have made a plainly stupid and irresponsible choice, I'm suddenly an asshole for marveling at simple cause and effect.
In other boat related news, a migrant boat capsizes killing at least 81 people seeking a better life. Basically no mention when compared to the reaction to the sub.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/asia/pakistan-greece-boat-tragedy-kashmir-village-intl-hnk/index.html
The people who defend the Romanovs fucking disgust me. I was 'friends' with another russian jew who went to bat for them because of the fucking movie Anastasia. Both their and my families were being slaughtered in state-sanctioned pogroms... how the hell do you get to that fucking point? Even at my most liberal, I always believed the Romanovs deserved everything they got. Every single time someone brings it up I just list the horrific conditions that thrived under the Romanovs making them feel as terrible as possible.
I get not wanting to relish in the death of oppressors, personally I believe an unceremonious
is more than sufficient. But defending them???because of the fucking movie Anastasia.
That fucking movie! It totally blows (Don Bluth's worst film imo) but seems to have influenced a genuinely shocking number of people's opinions on the Romanovs.
I just looked it up on wikipedia to make sure I spelled Don Bluth's name right, and read this:
Anastasia was the first 20th Century Fox animated feature to be produced by its own animation division, 20th Century Fox Animation, through the animation studio Fox Animation Studios. The film premiered at the Ziegfeld Theater in New York City on November 14, 1997, and was released in the United States on November 21. The film received generally positive reviews from critics, who praised the animation, voice performances, and soundtrack, though it attracted criticism from some historians for its fantastical retelling of the Grand Duchess. Anastasia grossed $140 million worldwide, making it the most profitable film from Bluth and Fox Animation Studios. It received nominations for several awards, including for Best Original Song ("Journey to the Past")[8] and Best Original Musical or Comedy Score at the 70th Academy Awards.
I am now suspicious that the CIA pushed that shitty movie
, I cannot imagine such a turd being that popular or successful organically.I am now suspicious that the CIA pushed that shitty movie
Dude, of course they do, this isn't up to suspicion, I'm sure nerds from hexbear.net can link a shitton of articles and documents proving every single "interaction" ie command from the government to Disney/Hollywood/whatever.
Was just throwing out the DVD at my parents house the other day, didn't even know we had it. The blurb made me fucking pissed. It was some shit literally talking about "reclaiming her destiny" like yeah her divine right to rule holy shit.
Exactly
And you just know these are the exact same people who laugh at videos of people falling down or slipping on ice
So it's not misfortune that bothers them
I wonder what it could be
Point out that what the Bolsheviks did to the Tsar's family is what Goblin Slayer did to the goblins.
"Did you support Goblin Slayer because he's badass? And those goblin babies were just going to grow up to be goblins? Those Romanoffs were going to do the same thing, grow up to be monsters. Best get them while they're easily gotten."
Then watch the sputtering and malding start.
Yeah I feel bad for the kid. But I mean c'mon the waiver even says "yeah you're going to die, $250k plz". If I was the kid I'd be like oh fuck no.
There are no non-evil billionaires. Their very existence is predicated upon mass poverty and death
I don't know if I'd say that. He seemed like the only normal person on that submarine, but also he's been diving to the Titanic since 1987 and I'm reading he's visited the wreckage more than anyone else.
So he should have known better to simply strap into a vessel as unsafe as that one.
Agreed. If you’re laughing at their deaths rather than causing them you need to do some serious introspection and self-crit
I feel no sympathy for billionaires, but I think that I can still think that suffocating to death while starving and dehydrated in a dark metal tube sounds horrifying despite no people of value being lost.
That 19 yo kid won't bankroll nor lead the revolution, but still feel bad for him
1- It creates unity among billionaire haters and billionaire-hating-curious people
2- Yet another proof of why billionaires shouldn't exist ie agitprop
3- Yeah won't cause the revolution but it's still funny.
Lenin was hilarious, what are you talking about? Mostly funny in a bitter sarcasm way though. Go read any of the angry things he wrote about Kautsky.
"P.S. Trotsky has sent in a silly letter. We shall neither print it nor reply to him."
I think it just makes us look bad. Yeah sure they sucked but publicly celebrating a death that in no way improves anyones life just makes us look weird and out of touch
I really feel bad for the kid, the rest are just dumb people believing themselves being too main character to die
yeah, but he's been dead longer than anyone here has been alive, so who cares
lenin's wax mummy can laugh a little at the billionaire death tube jokes, as a treat
Look at my western left, dawg. We're never going to even protect the 13th amendment at this rate.
Don't suppose Cuba is looking for some immigrants?
It is kind of funny but also kind of horrifying just how thoroughly these people owned thermselves and set themselves up for one of the most horrifically claustrophobic and depressing deaths imaginable, just no innate sense of self-preservation to even whisper "no"....like just on a human level it makes me worry how badly I might one day own myself
Being instantly crushed to death by water pressure after paying $250k and signing a waiver to load myself into a makeshift submarine built well below safety standards is not exactly the most nightmarish death I can imagine.
Yeah I would rather be crushed instantly than go through the alternative
There's a chance they are still freezing to death down there, getting really sleepy by now
Fair enough. Either way, I can find worse ways to die with a five minute tour of wikipedia; no imagination necessary.
The news has been reporting banging sounds being heard every 30 minutes or so. So it sounds like they're still alive and stuck down there, in a dark, cramped metal can, victims of their own hubris, unable to move, too deep for rescue, contemplating their impending deaths from asphyxiation when their air runs out less than 24 hours from now.
I'd almost feel bad for them if they hadn't brought this on entirely on their own lmao.
I don't buy the noises thing. If you're gonna make banging noises you'd do it in a pattern or tune that is very obviously human. Shit makes a lot of banging under the sea, rocks, things crashing into the side of the titanic from current. Without a noise having a pattern like SOS in morse code or a the typical jaunty door knock tune I call bullshit on these sounds being human.
Yeah now that you mention it I do think it's more likely that the news media is reporting on the underwater banging sounds just to pretend like they're not dead and milk this news event for as long as they can. Still, it's nice to have that ray of hope that at least some billionaires are experiencing a fraction of the prolonged suffering they inflict on poor people, rather than just an instant, agonizing death.
I doubt the banging thing. For one, they're REALLY deep. For another, you can communicate in Morse code with banging.
i don't think this actually was that nightmarish if the structural integrity failed they just got turned to jelly in a split second
in the extremely unlikely chance they didn't pop it's hypoxia & sleep long before any water/food/excrement problems
ill be real with you i have no idea how long many hours its been since this dropped
Estimates say they'll be out of oxygen some time tomorrow morning. The dive began at 9 AM ADT (8 AM EDT), so somewhere around that time tomorrow is when they'll probably run out.
have they considered that everything in this operation was half assed and there is no way the oxygen supply was properly measured/allotted?
GOOD point. I wonder if that also accounts for the difference between "going to see the boat from the movie" breathing and "I just paid a quarter million dollars to die at the bottom of the ocean in the groversub" breathing.
It literally feels like something out of like Futurama. A tour to see the Titanic wreckage goes awry due to rich people’s hubris.
evil
Morality is entirely subjected to the reality of class warfare, and all is moral that is necessary to unite the proletariat and overthrow the old social order
No it's not. Morality pre-exists class divisions in humanity.
One billionaire creates as much pollution as a 100k people.
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