• GaveUp [love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    Copied from another thread: No strong opinions on this either way

    Affirmative action is a liberal band-aid on the real issues inflicting American students and only offers palatable optics instead of fixing systemic issues

    Applying a flat score boost to incoming applicants don't help those that are the most exploited. Poor Hispanic and Black students from dysfunctional neighborhoods and schools aren't going to benefit from a flat boost with their low grades, assuming they even graduate in the first place

    So who does this benefit the most? According to research that you can look up yourself, it's white women and wealthy Hispanic and Black students

    For students that had to work jobs and help support their families instead of studying or participating in extra curriculars, the students that went to an extremely underfunded school, they never had a chance in the first place and affirmative action does nothing to change this

    If they really wanted to help poor Hispanic and Black students, the solution is once again a class one. Fix poor neighborhoods and put more funding into schools with underachieving students. Elevate families to a healthy economic state so that all kids can have time to study and learn

    • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      yes, benefits white women the most but you cant argue that it doesn't help working class black people. some university HALVED their black student pop. do you really think that was all rich kids? it was never anything but table scraps and yet its the most this country has given us. universities are expected to return to 1960s levels of black students. seriously this is going to be horrible for hundreds of thousands of black people. please try to have empathy. just because we look like a few percentage points on a graph doesn't mean we dont feel this shit.

      • GaveUp [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        Shit I had no idea some universities suffered that big a drop of enrollment rates, my bad

        This seriously sucks then

        • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          no worries comrade, it is a complex issue. sorry for being a bit too emotional in my response. this is just a bad day.

          • GaveUp [love/loves]
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            1 year ago

            You're good, it's also my fault for not being very knowledgeable about this, sorry

            I also never went to school in America so I never got a ground level view of the issue either

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        seriously this is going to be horrible for hundreds of thousands of black people. please try to have empathy. just because we look like a few percentage points on a graph doesn't mean we dont feel this shit.

        My black students are going to be more depressed than usual next semester and I think I know why already. yea

    • regul [any]
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      1 year ago

      Fix poor neighborhoods and put more funding into schools with underachieving students

      I believe we have a "yes and" situation here. Like yes undoubtedly fix systemic problems at the roots before they become intractable, but also address them wherever you can in the meantime. As /u/Othello pointed out, AA does benefit black people, even if you can very easily point out that it's not enough.

    • Retrosound [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Of course Harvard and other elite academies will never admit low-class nobodies. That's the whole point of having an elite system! It's a comfort thing. Like attracts like. Harvardites would feel weird and uncomfortable around us. They enjoy the feeling of being around their own kind.