And this problem affects societies as well. Every developed nation has an aging population and the child birth rates are declining as well. I'd rather extend my youthful time on this planet than be in constant pain due to aging. If people are delaying childbirth, then having healthier parents at an older age is also nice, especially if you want to play with an active kid. And yes I know "diet, exercise, sleep" is important but tbh it sounds like a capitalist saying "you just need to buckle down and find a job." Like I fucking know that stuff is important but it's not gonna fix everything.
If anti-aging research was being done in Cuba or China the comments would unironically be "damn gimme some of that youth energy Xi!!!!" All the angry sentiments in the comments here come off as libertarian-bro contrarianism (for contrarianism sake).
I'll just say I completely agree with this take, you said almost everything I would here.
One of the main problems with this site is people tend to make literaly everything, and I mean everything a guilty by association exercise and it seems to be getting worse in the past 6 months. Sometimes its treat wars(e.g anime used to be such topic until some of these posters decided to chill about it) or sometimes its just technology(chatgpt was a huge struggle) or things that exist under capitalism that people will just contextualize it in the worst way possible.
For example EV and electrification gets shit on by being associated with Musk despite China actualy being by far the biggest leader in the field now, the fuck cars crowd doesn't let go an inch, and to be absolutely clear here its not like they're wrong inherently, I don't even like cars at all in particular, but the point here is because cars suck in the context of western capitalist society everything to do with it must also suck regardless of context.
With regards to anti-aging its one of the things I actualy have hopes for it will succeed in some fashion, the humanitarian arguments far outweigh chapo.chat's struggle sessions and people realy, I mean realy underestimate just how much pain and suffering age related diseases and symptoms actualy causes to society.
And yeah you might argue but some billionaire fuck will be the first to get it and I say that is a small price to pay, Kissinger is living to 100 and we did nothing about it that is all you need to know about the state of revolutionary or even adventurist action from the left, clutching pearls about some Musk type living to 100? Yeah not a good look.
Maybe you'll say but US healthcare is too expensive and I say I'm sorry but so? Healthcare is affordable in many other places, in fact its more accessible in the third world even(medical tourism) so yeah maybe one day you'll go to Mexico, Brazil or Philippines to get some anti-aging treatment, is that even bad? Its certainly better than not having it at all, at least some decent amount of normal people will also get it and that is a good starting point to me.
With regards to anti-aging its one of the things I actualy have hopes for it will succeed in some fashion, the humanitarian arguments far outweigh chapo.chat's struggle sessions and people realy, I mean realy underestimate just how much pain and suffering age related diseases and symptoms actualy causes to society.
There's literally a comment up top that says:
Aging is not a disease. There’s nothing wrong with being old.
And while I get that sentiment in terms of anti-age-discrimination I also think they are not seeing your and biden's overall point.
For example EV and electrification gets shit on by being associated with Musk despite China actualy being by far the biggest leader in the field now, the fuck cars crowd doesn't let go an inch, and to be absolutely clear here its not like they're wrong inherently, I don't even like cars at all in particular, but the point here is because cars suck in the context of western capitalist society everything to do with it must also suck regardless of context.
Or if you point out that in rural and suburban places oftentimes a car is a must, you'll get told that you're "carbrained as f*ck" (that actually happened to me). I mean yeah a world with less cars would be great, but some online leftist isn't going to be able to wish it away just like that. I thought the whole point of socialism was that it was a transition from capitalism to communism, not some kind of instant utopian thing.
One of the main problems with this site is people tend to make literaly everything, and I mean everything a guilty by association exercise and it seems to be getting worse in the past 6 months. Sometimes its treat wars(e.g anime used to be such topic until some of these posters decided to chill about it) or sometimes its just technology(chatgpt was a huge struggle) or things that exist under capitalism that people will just contextualize it in the worst way possible.
People will still say things like "unironically death to all anime" just because they personally don't like/watch it. At this point its getting tiring. I wonder what actual marxists that have political power in places like Cuba or China think about these technological advancements (I bet that at least in Chinese universities they are researching this stuff, they wouldn't just let only western unis do this stuff).
And yeah you might argue but some billionaire fuck will be the first to get it and I say that is a small price to pay, Kissinger is living to 100 and we did nothing about it that is all you need to know about the state of revolutionary or even adventurist action from the left, clutching pearls about some Musk type living to 100? Yeah not a good look.
Yeah and when he passes all the "leftists" (I cringe even calling them that) in online spaces will post a million crab gifs in celebration, as though they actually had something to do with it.
Nobody’s against anti-aging research lol it’s the exploitative way it’s being done. It’s not that deep, people are expressing how they’re weirded out by this particular guy and his intentions, most people aren’t even denying it could have a net positive, we’re just creeped by the context of it. Shit if this kind of research isn’t gonna be done in an ethical and normal way, then so be it. But I’m still allowed to find the context of it a little off-putting.
I’ll gladly shit talk Tesla and that doesn’t mean I’m against EVs.
I'll just say I completely agree with this take, you said almost everything I would here.
One of the main problems with this site is people tend to make literaly everything, and I mean everything a guilty by association exercise and it seems to be getting worse in the past 6 months. Sometimes its treat wars(e.g anime used to be such topic until some of these posters decided to chill about it) or sometimes its just technology(chatgpt was a huge struggle) or things that exist under capitalism that people will just contextualize it in the worst way possible.
For example EV and electrification gets shit on by being associated with Musk despite China actualy being by far the biggest leader in the field now, the fuck cars crowd doesn't let go an inch, and to be absolutely clear here its not like they're wrong inherently, I don't even like cars at all in particular, but the point here is because cars suck in the context of western capitalist society everything to do with it must also suck regardless of context.
With regards to anti-aging its one of the things I actualy have hopes for it will succeed in some fashion, the humanitarian arguments far outweigh chapo.chat's struggle sessions and people realy, I mean realy underestimate just how much pain and suffering age related diseases and symptoms actualy causes to society.
And yeah you might argue but some billionaire fuck will be the first to get it and I say that is a small price to pay, Kissinger is living to 100 and we did nothing about it that is all you need to know about the state of revolutionary or even adventurist action from the left, clutching pearls about some Musk type living to 100? Yeah not a good look.
Maybe you'll say but US healthcare is too expensive and I say I'm sorry but so? Healthcare is affordable in many other places, in fact its more accessible in the third world even(medical tourism) so yeah maybe one day you'll go to Mexico, Brazil or Philippines to get some anti-aging treatment, is that even bad? Its certainly better than not having it at all, at least some decent amount of normal people will also get it and that is a good starting point to me.
There's literally a comment up top that says:
And while I get that sentiment in terms of anti-age-discrimination I also think they are not seeing your and biden's overall point.
Or if you point out that in rural and suburban places oftentimes a car is a must, you'll get told that you're "carbrained as f*ck" (that actually happened to me). I mean yeah a world with less cars would be great, but some online leftist isn't going to be able to wish it away just like that. I thought the whole point of socialism was that it was a transition from capitalism to communism, not some kind of instant utopian thing.
People will still say things like "unironically death to all anime" just because they personally don't like/watch it. At this point its getting tiring. I wonder what actual marxists that have political power in places like Cuba or China think about these technological advancements (I bet that at least in Chinese universities they are researching this stuff, they wouldn't just let only western unis do this stuff).
Yeah and when he passes all the "leftists" (I cringe even calling them that) in online spaces will post a million crab gifs in celebration, as though they actually had something to do with it.
Nobody’s against anti-aging research lol it’s the exploitative way it’s being done. It’s not that deep, people are expressing how they’re weirded out by this particular guy and his intentions, most people aren’t even denying it could have a net positive, we’re just creeped by the context of it. Shit if this kind of research isn’t gonna be done in an ethical and normal way, then so be it. But I’m still allowed to find the context of it a little off-putting.
I’ll gladly shit talk Tesla and that doesn’t mean I’m against EVs.