• Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I disagree completely with this deeply pessimistic view of humanity. None of the things you listed are innate to human nature or the human experience. People are born intersex, people are born trans.

    Wanting to “change” getting old and dying implies there is something wrong with getting old and dying. My contention (which I’m about tapped out defending) is that the desire to change something that is good, that is natural, reflects an unhealthy relationship with death that permeates our culture. It is a part of life. We are supposed to die. There is nothing wrong with it. There IS something wrong with pretending it doesn’t exist, by shutting people away in nursing homes, or forcing them to die in hospitals instead of at home surrounded by loved ones.

    This the most extreme expression of the type of selfishness and egoism plaguing capitalist society and manifesting in things like ecocide. We are only a small part of the whole. We are not supposed to live forever. We are supposed to be stewards and guides for future generations.

    • muslimmarxist [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      People are born intersex, people are born trans.

      Yes they totally are, but in order to not "mess with nature" then would we just not allow them to get affirming medical procedures? I think that's the issue here, i.e. at what point do we intervene in the otherwise "natural order."

      • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        I think the difference is in the implication that there is something wrong with aging bodies that makes stories like this one eugenics-adjacent

        A trans person receiving affirming care is not making such an assumption— gender affirming care does not imply inferiority of one gender vs another

    • electricaltape [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      None of the things you listed are innate to human nature or the human experience.

      Yeah sure, according to you. Yet aging is the one thing that is "natural." How convenient that it all fits how you want it to be....

      • arabiclearner
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        1 year ago

        Yeah the mental gymnastics are strong with that one...