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  • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    So SPD and FDP voters are the ones migrating towards the right? I expected the Green vote to collapse way harder. I thought the Greens were leading this coalition?

    I guess the Green voter is a true believer, so to speak.

    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      So SPD and FDP voters are the ones migrating towards the right?

      Not necessarily. Non-voters also exist, and different people become non-voters at different moments in time. Social-democratic voters who're dissapointed in the SPD might be staying home, while previous non-voters might be showing up for the first time to vote AfD, because they finally see a chance to make that party large/vote against the entire political spectrum/etc.

      When Elke Kahr became mayor of Graz, a detailed analysis of voting patterns showed that the KPÖ was able to attract many non-voters from working class and marginalised backgrounds for the first time, while at the same time their succes demotivated FPÖ-voters who stayed home. If you simply looked at the bar-charts, you'd think a big FPÖ to KPÖ swing happened, but that wasn't the case.

    • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Looking at wider trends, it seems like both the spd and greens dropped off

      Show

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Ah thank you, now to deal with the existential dread that the CDU might have also peaked and the elections are two years away pain

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Being in a war does this, even if the media pretend they're not participants the effect on the population appears to be the same. The whole of europe will shift right.

      • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It gets brought up EVERY time, as evidence of German foolishness by American nuclear power technoutopians.

        Yes, it was a bad decision in terms of what was good for humanity, due to its at least medium term effects, but

        What's good for humanity isn't always good for capital. They got closed because

        1. Merkel got spooked by the Green Party's electoral result in 2011 Baden-Württemberg

        2. It was a gift to the mining corporation RWE

          • fatman [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Even if power plants where built it would only be like a quarter of total energy use and uranium mining would have to get more carbon intensive with each plant.

            It's too late for nuclear anyway. We're facing the hottest temperatures on record this week throughout the world. If we where in control would it really be a good idea to have to keep so many spent fuel casks cool for at minimum ten given the kind of disruptions coming. Not to mention relying on thermal power plants close to the sea and rivers?

            • 7bicycles [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              It's too late for nuclear anyway. We're facing the hottest temperatures on record this week throughout the world

              Better rev up those coal power plants then

                • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  There's a theoretical possibility to have gone from nuclear to reneweables. Or just straight up renewables, depending on how far back in time you wanna go.

                  There just wasn't an actual one and if you weren't aware of that and then go work towards nuclear power plants being shut off because the enviroment where it's pretty fucking obvious they're just gonna fire up coal power plants: congratulations, you are the greens of germany and have achieved nothing

              • fatman [none/use name]
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                1 year ago

                And Chernobyl accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union. It could have also made it uninhabitable if it wasn't for the scuba guys.

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  This is not true. I'm not even sure what you're implying, but nothing about the Chernobyl disaster could have made the USSR "uninhabitable".

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      It's a case of the AfD mobilizing a lot of voters that usually don't and the left-of-Mussolini parties having the opposite effect.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      SPD leads the coalition and holds the office of chancelor, mostly because the corporate press managed to scare the shit out of potential "centrist" green voters while the CDU put up a complete bumbling fool of a candidate, so a lot of "moderates" ended up voting SPD out of desperation.

    • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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      1 year ago

      The Green voters became the Crusader-Democrat resistance under president trump type, so they believe the green party is especially smeared by the corporatist media.