I'm not putting that SHIT in my garden! Have you ever seen what OTHER products they sell? It's all pest control. Bugs, mites, rodents, everything. What they DON'T tell you is that the Miracle Grow is designed to make your plants WEAK so that you have to buy their OTHER products and keep the pests at bay!"

what-the-hell

You literally cannot have a conversation with him where he doesn't bring up some deranged conspiracy theory. I would hate to see his browser history tbh.

It's pretty funny because for the most part we get on, and he's one of those anti-establishment conservative types. We can have a political conversation and agree with each other about absolutely everything (the common man gets screwed by big corporations etc etc) until the second we start talking about who we think is responsible, or who the "bad guy" is because I'm all "It's fucking Jeff Bezos and the billionaires obviously" and he starts ranting about the World Economic Forum and Bilberburgs and "THE GLOBAL CENTRAL BANK!!!!!1", oh and the fucking second that China gets brought up it activates the reactionary in him Manchurian Candidate style.

But we can also talk about plants because we both like to grow shit, so that's nice neutral territory (for the most part as long as I don't bring up Miracle Grow LMAO).

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Broken clocks and all that but while his line of reasoning to get there is mostly batshit, he's not wrong

    Miracle Grow was always just the consumer side of Monsanto (now owned by Bayer)

    I won't claim that all of their products will give you cancer or some shit, I don't fucking know but I sure as hell don't trust anything from the makers of glyphosate

    • Trustmeitsnotabailou [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Miracle grow fert will eventually lead to salt build up in your soil so it does eventually kill the soil. That's any petro derived fertilizer though

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        1 year ago

        It also has copper sulfate in it, which is a bactericide, fungicide, and algaecide, meaning it kills beneficial organisms in your soil.

        Also, in higher concentrations it's used as a root killer, so... It is actually possible to kill your plants with miracle gro

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        the government faked the moon landings

        look at this mf he thinks the moon is real

        yes-hahaha-yes-l

        hahaha

    • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Honestly don’t believe this is possibly without an explicitly leftist conspiracy theory. As noted on a recent chapo episode, they have a “yes and” culture like improv.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        But all our conspiracies are things the CIA has publicly admitted to, that you can look up on the first page of a Google search...

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  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    capitalist simps: "communism doesnt work and can never exist"

    same simps: "capitalism works, it's just failing for other unknown reason"

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    that Miracle Gro rant is exactly the type of vibe I bring lol

  • Vampire [any]
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    1 year ago

    Jeff Bezos and the billionaires obviously" and he starts ranting about the World Economic Forum and Bilberburgs

    Those are two ways of saying the same thing. Jeff Bezos def attends the Bilderberg meetings, and I'm pretty sure Davos too.

    • sexywheat [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Well yes, but his takes always have this sinister illuminati vibe to them, not just normal business people going about their business and defending their own class interests. It's not about class to him it's all a CONSPIRACY

      • Vampire [any]
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        1 year ago

        I'm not seeing a huge differentiation

        :shrug:

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          • Comp4 [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Maybe we should have fancy robes under communism ? Something to think about. There is a human demand for fancy robes.

            • SaniFlush [any, any]
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              1 year ago

              They're kept locked up when not in use, like the rifles in Switzerland

              • Comp4 [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                I like where this is going. Every 4th of July everyone gets to put on a robe to celebrate the downfall of the USA

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You know what? He might be interested in a Parenti lecture that talks about conspiracy theory:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq8LwEoYRcc

  • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    In addition to my obnoxious MAGA boss who doesn't shut up about Trump, I have a middle aged coworker who is deep into Q shit. Straight up believes lizard people. I caught snippets of her talking the other day about how the Titanic sub had cabal members on it and they actually snuck the sub to Pakistan because...?

    Sad thing is she's honestly a nice person otherwise. Genuinely upsetting to me how easily otherwise decent people are swept into the current of reaction and conspiracy theories.

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    • sexywheat [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I mean, you don't need to pay people to believe dumb bullshit; they do that for free already.

      But yeah I think you're probably right at least some of the time.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    That Miracle Grow one makes sense, you've convinced me.