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Pork and Beans :kellykelly

  • CascadeOfLight [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    A quick look shows they haven't told anyone what the actual genes they've put in are (for "IP reasons"), but it's probably something like myoglobin if it has that pink colour.

    Frankly, if it improves the amino acid profile then great, and if it convinces even a few people to eat less meat then double great.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It wold be pretty neat to have a vegetable with a complete amino acid profile. Make life easier for a lot of people.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      Right. I don't really get people freaking out at the idea of tasting protein residue.

      Like, the problem with industrial animal cruelty isn't the flavor.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        1 year ago

        Factor worth considering: some people have dietary restrictions that prohibit consumption of certain animals, including pigs.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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            1 year ago

            Ok, but this is still pig protein. Even entirely meatless "pork" such as Impossible Pork is haram and treyf, meaning that despite it not actually even containing any pork at all, it still cannot be consumed by people maintaining a halal or kosher diet.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              1 year ago

              this is still pig protein

              not actually even containing any pork at all

              This isn't a science problem, its a religion problem. If you've got a hang up about eating beans, because you're religion tells you that beans are a pig...

              Idk, man. What is anyone supposed to do to accommodate someone that picks up a bean and insists it is actually a pig?

              • Mardoniush [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                Im ok with pork beans in principle, but ensuring that (some, clearly marked) vegan food only contains vegetable protein seems reasonable, given people can be vegan for medical reasons.

                • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                  1 year ago

                  I just get the sense that this'll be the next generation of MSG hysteria, where we make a big show of warning about powdered mushrooms.

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Interesting that it's not Kosher, given the propensity for rules lawyering around things. (Not a criticism, us Catholics love a technicality.)

              But yeah, label that shit for religious and health reasons.

              • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                1 year ago

                Yeah, this one is extremely not kosher. I think there's maybe an argument to be made for things that absolutely contain only plant products like Impossible Pork to be kosher or halal, but I also understand the opposing argument, that it would be kind of troubling to declare something explicitly labeled as pork as being either one.

                I can't speak for Muslims, but there are a lot of non-kosher Jews who will eat other treyf food items like catfish or shellfish, but who still will not eat pork. To be entirely honest, I don't keep kosher at all, and I actually have both crab and bacon in my fridge right now. shocked-pikachu

              • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                1 year ago

                haha yes cool and based we should feed banned things to people with religious dietary restrictions, this is very normal and not literally the exact same shit that neonazis love to do. please put bacon on qurans and dip your bullets in bacon grease because you are very neat and based

                clearly I am the reactionary here for the thought crime of *checks notes* being jewish, and this is not a textbook antisemitic argument that you're concern trolling over.

                • Parzivus [any]
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                  1 year ago

                  There's a reason communism is atheist and it isn't because it's fucking anti-Semitic. Religion is the original reactionary bastion and is potentially the only institution responsible for more suffering that capitalism itself. Read theory and stop calling comrades racist

                  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                    1 year ago

                    This is a deeply r/atheism-poisoned misunderstanding of both religion and of Jewish culture. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are certainly parroting words and concepts directly out of the mouths of antisemites. I'm not playing the "who's read more theory" epeen measuring contest with you. Do better.

                    • Parzivus [any]
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                      1 year ago

                      religion is cool because some redditors are cringe

                      I'm just gonna stop replying, you're way too online. Call it epeen whatever if you want, but it really feels like a lot of these arguments could be avoided if people were willing to read a little.

                      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                        1 year ago

                        Dude, I have read plenty of theory. I moderate c/Judaism on here as well, and I'm not just going to bend over and . I really don't get what the fuck you're trying to achieve with this line of reasoning. Learn to keep your sectarianism to yourself or piss up a tree.

              • spectre [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I think this is a rare miss from Emma, but I don't think we need to flame our comrades with this sort of response tbh. She has a point

                • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                  1 year ago

                  I just think that people who have religious or health related dietary restrictions should be allowed to maintain those restrictions, and that there's a legitimate argument to be made in that scenario. I'm not suggesting that this is a matter of animal cruelty, just that the idea of pushing something that roughly 1/3 of the global population cannot eat as a predominant monoculture product is probably something that that 1/3 of the population is justified in being apprehensive about.

            • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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              1 year ago

              Impossible pork being Haram isn't a consensus. Some Islamic groups in the way argue it isn't, and their argument has no Quranic basis, it's just that they don't like that pork is in the name. There is nothing in Quran or Hadith that could give any strong basis in religious law for it to be haram. That may as well be the case for Jews, but I'm not as familiar.

              Because the argument is that it's haram based purely on the name and would be halal otherwise, which is a silly argument.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Okay, so here is my bit:

      What if we can take from the Cloth of Jesus, or the Spear or whatever is left and use that DNA to clone a Jesus embryo and from that take the proteins which create blood/blood colour and those we implant into plants, so that Christians can actually have a literal interpretation of the bible for the first time in history.