Its always 'oh you online marxists who blah blah blah anti Ukraine' who the fuck actually thinks Russia is communist? What person is out there like "Russia is liberating Ukraine" it feels like a purposeful misrepresentation idk

  • Abstraction [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The choice to specifically use the word "democracy" here instead of "nation" or "country" is pretty strange, would doing war crimes be okay to do if the target country was designated not-a-democracy?

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      would doing war crimes be okay to do if the target country was designated not-a-democracy?

      Ask the pentagon joker-troll

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      The war requires an ideological foundation for support, so the US has gone with it's classic "defense of liberal democratic ideals." It would be much harder to give a shit about Ukraine if the war was viewed as a beef between two reactionary states. The invasion would still be alarming, but people might be willing to forego the Ukrainian state as currently constituted if it lead to peace and the preservation of life. The wholesome smol bean democracy discourse is essential. It turns the war into an existential global crisis as far as liberals are concerned, and turns any compromise into appeasement. The fact that all left-wing parties, media, and labor unions have been banned, all elections have been postponed indefinitely, and that the country is effectively under martial law doesn't matter. It is a "democracy," and the ideal is worth defending no matter the cost in lives.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It's a long-running bit of US propaganda dating back to the cold war where they strategically framed it as "democracy" vs communism. Every one of the US' enemies are derided with terms like "authoritarian" and their leaders are all "madmen". Russia, China, DPRK, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, the list goes on. If this country is in such dire straits and the leader(s) so unreasonable, US humanitarian military invasions are warranted.

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    There was a current for this but it was more specific to DPR and LPR, who kept getting shelled and had ceasefire violations against them by Ukraine prior to the SMO. Also, Crimea obviously. And there were absolutely tons of neo nazis crawling around in Ukraine, I know western media has insisted this isn't the case anymore retroactively but it was true.

    I don't think anyone was really claiming Ukraine as a whole was being liberated, that seems like libs trying to purge their guilt from supporting the invasion of Iraq by fantasizing they're now on the "good side" wrt the conflict in Ukraine.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, this is their good war

      America doing the right thing even though the last five times it was bad

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I wish Lenin would wake up, put Putin in a gulag, do dekulakization on the capitalists, and then do USSR 2. Russia is not a friend to communism beyond not shit stirring with China.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    1 year ago

    Those people are actually posting from the other timeline where the DPR and LPR are actually communist and the CPRF won a plurality of the vote over United Russia in 2021. Unfortunately, they weren't allowed to wake Lenin up due to the ONF coalition still having more seats overall, so Putin is still in charge. That's why they keep saying that Russian soldiers are getting deployed with WWII equipment from museums, it's actually magic gear from the "Open In Case of Communism 2" Vault in the other timeline.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      didn't realize the dark incantations of juche necromancy were so hobbled by paralimentarianism

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Fucking libs. Where's the evidence of genocide? (War crimes, yes, obviously, they happen in every war because war is awful)

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