Even the shit-to-average stuff we have now is so expensive (even though it probably costs cents on the dollar to produce vs dairy)
Even the shit-to-average stuff we have now is so expensive (even though it probably costs cents on the dollar to produce vs dairy)
Literally the only good one is the Bio Cheese Vegan Feta, and even then its way too overpriced for what I imagine is coconut milk and lemon juice.
We need a space for vegan shitposting, moral superiority and struggle sessions.
Totally. The amount of “cheddar” flavoured slices I’ve bought that literally taste of coconut lol. And shit just doesn’t melt and stretch properly. The fake meat has gotten so good, how can the cheese tech be so far behind??
I've dropped the fake meat for the most part, a little bit of seitan if I can get my hands on it cheap, but for the most part I just took the time to learn to cook tofu a little better and have a mix of legumes and the like in my meals.
As for cheese - just replace that shit with olive oil most of the time. It's like a million times tastier than most vegan cheeses. I'm starting to get real iffy about the amount of capitalist buy-in vegan shit has had recently, trying to learn to strip things back to the basics.
Nutritional yeast has a nice cheesy flavor too. There's a recipe for a queso style dip I've done a few times that involves cashews, cumin, jalapenos, and a ton of nutritional yeast and it's actually pretty fuckin good. I might be forgetting an ingredient or two. I can dig it up if you want
I live in Nooch. I'd fucking marry Nooch.
That dip sounds incredible.
https://minimalistbaker.com/roasted-jalapeno-vegan-queso-7-ingredients/ sorry for late reply, I'm lazy af lol. But this is what I use. It's goooooooood
That looks so god damn good. Maybe I'll whip up a batch tonight, light some candles, get nude and go to town on it. Damn. Cheesy.
You won't be disappointed! You try it?
Nah, not yet. Busy with the kids. It's the weekend now though, so I might cook it with the partner!
Seitan is worth learning to make on your own. It's easy and super cheap. And the ingredients keep forever.
I might give it a go. Just read you can make it from scratch from whole meal flour. Got tonnes of the stuff for baking so that sounds best.
Oh interesting! I've always started with vital wheat gluten.
Apparently you make that with the flour and then the seitan with that.
Love doing things from scratch, so I'll go the long way round, haha.
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Hold up what's wrong with olive oil that's 30% of my diet
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Yeah, I second the below. What's wrong with olive oil?
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Hey, thanks. I'll give it a look!
The only good one I've had was Violife Smoked Flavour one, and that's because it mostly tasted like smoke and only a little like coconut.
Also
Yes.
I was told c/vegan is in the works but it's since been delayed for reasons unknown.
It's hard to find good theory on animal welfare, so in addition to patting each other on our backs for our very clear and rightfully earned moral superiority, I'd like a place to share reading suggestions too.
Also i want vegan cheese that's a source of protein and not just coconut oil.
Good old Peter Singer is a good place to start for theory. I'll see if I can pull together a larger list at some point.
Kinda hard to think of theory based on this, as it's basically "murder is wrong"...
Also, nutritional yeast, as mentioned below. Just mix some in with literally everything you eat if you like that cheesy taste. Good source of B vitamins and protein.
thanks! of course i worship at the alter of nooch, but it doesn't stretch when you put it on a damn pizza!
also yeah singer's a great starting point, but i lose him when i try to flesh it out with larger leftist frameworks. he puts a hell of a lot of responsibility on individuals' actions over larger systemic change (iirc he argued they're morally one in the same at some point). also his some of his ethical arguments kinda dance around fashy when it comes to people with disabilities. would be great to have a dedicated community where we can try to compile resources like they do in other coms. and if you've personally got a list to share, please do make a post - it would be super helpful!
Singer is always a good first step for people as he's written easily and makes some really obvious points.
Very critical support though. For ever good point (speciesism), he seems to follow it up with a fucking stupid point (bestiality is ok, animals can consent)
I know his whole shtick is to stick to his philosophical guns, but god damn it gets tiring.
I have noone else though - I think Singer was my first, I continued to ignore veganism, I grew the fuck up and then decided one day that I don't hate animals.
Of you have anything share away!