the movie doesn’t uphold that line though. it’s all shown from oppenheimer’s perspective, but after the bomb’s dropped he mentions how he found out the japanese were on the brink of surrender regardless and that they weren’t necessary, and also how it was really to intimidate the soviet union. the movie definitely depicts everyone and everything that happened as evil
i didn’t enjoy it, it’s just that isn’t true regarding the movie. nolan’s a horrible director but i feel like this movie doesn’t have the horrible politics his films usually have, definitely not the level of his batman movies.
I probably won't see it, but if what you say is true, that's nice that Lucy actually held down the football for Charlie Brown to actually kick it for once instead of another "deep and thoughtful kino masterpiece with totally nonpolitical universal deep thoughts" wound up being "WHAT IF UNGRATEFUL POORS WANT TO NUKE CITY AND ONLY COPS AND COSTUME BILLIONAIRE CAN STOP THAT?"
LMAO yeah i was pleasantly surprised in that regard i was expecting the worst. none of the cpusa members are portrayed negatively, marx and capital vol 1-3 get name dropped a few times, stresses that countless innocents died from the bombs (and firebombing in tokyo), makes the american imperialists look like monsters (one guy didn’t want to bomb kyoto because he vacationed there with his wife), makes truman look like a monster, makes oppenheimer look like a huge dick even if it does show his guilt and later opinions on nuclear weapons, etc. also vaguely mentions how they’re testing on native american land. the only thing i can think of to critique it politically speaking is that it doesn’t really analyze mccarthyism at all and just shows the anti-communism oppenheimer faced as just some guy having a personal problem with him.
it also definitely has his best film making from a technical aspect but god dude it really is boring LMFAO i said in a discussion post the other day that i considered leaving at some points and had to keep fighting off sleep, but i was also in a bad mood that night so idk, i’m planning on rewatching it when it comes to streaming because i have been thinking about it a lot. but then i remember half the movie was just:
government bureaucrats: are you a communist
oppenheimer: no
government: are you disloyal to the american government
oppenheimer: no
government: are you a spy
oppenheimer: no
the movie was boring but i don’t remember anything particularly anti-communist. the politics were fine iirc
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/07/oppenheimer-christopher-nolan-movie-narrative-hiroshima-nagasaki-nuclear/
the movie doesn’t uphold that line though. it’s all shown from oppenheimer’s perspective, but after the bomb’s dropped he mentions how he found out the japanese were on the brink of surrender regardless and that they weren’t necessary, and also how it was really to intimidate the soviet union. the movie definitely depicts everyone and everything that happened as evil
You said it was boring, but you're going to bat for it.
It's fine if you liked it; just own that if you did.
I have personally been burned way too many times from Nolan ideology before, especially during Batman movies but not exclusive to them.
i didn’t enjoy it, it’s just that isn’t true regarding the movie. nolan’s a horrible director but i feel like this movie doesn’t have the horrible politics his films usually have, definitely not the level of his batman movies.
I probably won't see it, but if what you say is true, that's nice that Lucy actually held down the football for Charlie Brown to actually kick it for once instead of another "deep and thoughtful kino masterpiece with totally nonpolitical universal deep thoughts" wound up being "WHAT IF UNGRATEFUL POORS WANT TO NUKE CITY AND ONLY COPS AND COSTUME BILLIONAIRE CAN STOP THAT?"
LMAO yeah i was pleasantly surprised in that regard i was expecting the worst. none of the cpusa members are portrayed negatively, marx and capital vol 1-3 get name dropped a few times, stresses that countless innocents died from the bombs (and firebombing in tokyo), makes the american imperialists look like monsters (one guy didn’t want to bomb kyoto because he vacationed there with his wife), makes truman look like a monster, makes oppenheimer look like a huge dick even if it does show his guilt and later opinions on nuclear weapons, etc. also vaguely mentions how they’re testing on native american land. the only thing i can think of to critique it politically speaking is that it doesn’t really analyze mccarthyism at all and just shows the anti-communism oppenheimer faced as just some guy having a personal problem with him.
it also definitely has his best film making from a technical aspect but god dude it really is boring LMFAO i said in a discussion post the other day that i considered leaving at some points and had to keep fighting off sleep, but i was also in a bad mood that night so idk, i’m planning on rewatching it when it comes to streaming because i have been thinking about it a lot. but then i remember half the movie was just:
government bureaucrats: are you a communist oppenheimer: no government: are you disloyal to the american government oppenheimer: no government: are you a spy oppenheimer: no
on what basically felt like a loop lmao
I believe you and I'm genuinely impressed that Nolan showed some range considering the movies of his I had previously seen.
Ironically, I might have enjoyed the movie more than you did; I believe you saying it was boring for you but deserved a fairer appraisal now.