One part Great Man Theory with tons of navel gazing and genuflecting to a handful of star figures. One part Sorkin-esque courtroom drama.
Zero parts fun.
Three fucking hours long.
Don't waste your money on this shit bag, folks.
One part Great Man Theory with tons of navel gazing and genuflecting to a handful of star figures. One part Sorkin-esque courtroom drama.
Zero parts fun.
Three fucking hours long.
Don't waste your money on this shit bag, folks.
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You're assuming a lot about me from what amounts to a mostly joking off hand comment I made because I get frustrated with how overly-critical and cynical people on this sight get about movies. I'm simply tired of people on here acting like every film that's not overtly calling for revolutionary overthrow of capitalism is evil and immoral and shit and you're bad for watching it. Like, yeah it'd be cool if every movie was as revolutionary as like Battleship Potemkin or Battle of Algiers but we still live under capitalism so they're unfortunately not. It just gets tiring here where it feels like people need to be so moralist about EVERYTHING they watch. Like it's ok to enjoy stuff that's not as progressive as us, enjoy art that was made by flawed people with flawed ideas. Sure, I'm not saying go out and listen to Skrewdriver, but most stuff is fine to like and enjoy and not necessary to decry as bad or wrong. It just feels like film/art opinions here are overly negative. Just because we don't like or vibe with something doesn't necessitate moral condemnation of it.
And for the recrod, if we're gonna talk about "toxicity" I find the original post and your reply to me way more antagonistic and hostile than my comment.
This is self-victimizing and very plainly not true of how people talk about things here. This is how boomers react to media criticism they don't like.
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Yeah, I wonder why. Alright pal, think whatever you want and compare what I said to making excuses for saying the n-word. But anyone who takes the phrase "baby brained" as some kind of serious, toxic insult is clearly as tightly wound as a watch. People like you and your asshole, attacking replies are an example of the exact reason WHY I'm so fucking tired of talking about and hearing media discussion on this site. You're right, I should have never voiced my displeasure at all, because then I wouldn't have had to deal with all your weird pent up anger.
Count up the insults you've thrown in this reply chain alone, and then count up mine. No, saying "back at you" probably doesn't count because it's once again you throwing insults then playing the part of victim if you get any pushback at all.
So uncivil, unlike "jokingly" calling everyone with an opinion about media that you disapprove of "baby brained."
Yes, casual ableism is "some kind of serious, toxic insult." And it's not normalized to the extend of "stupid" or "dumb," so what does that tell us when you would stoop to casual ableism because people here are shitting on your favorite treat?
It actually is on this website
Also, what is "casual ableism"?
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You come off to most people (myself included, though I have genuine sympathy and we've discussed this) as being more of an obsessive crank, which is a different genre of complainer. I say this as someone who gets called a joyless scold regularly because I'm really anal-retentive about almost everything, as evidenced even by this comment.
You really could work on coming off in a less presumptuous manner (who the fuck was talking about grimdark?, not her) though I think you otherwise tend to be correct.
I actually agree with your take, but this time, right now, look at what I have to work with in this thread.
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Who the fuck was talking about the movie, or its consumers, being evil because it was not Battleship Potemkin? She was claiming that was here.
I mentioned that because of her assumption that disliking Oppenheimer/Nolan meant the person was "baby brained." The implication was that things had to be more ponderous and pretentiously serious (grimdark, in other words) to not be "baby brained."
you had a single flippant sentence to work with
So? It was a terrible sentence, and what followed didn't exactly change my mind about it.
lol
Yes. I replied to the terrible sentence with a sentence of my own calling out the sheer presumptive arrogance of it, all in the name of generic defense of a Nolan movie. I stand by that.
lol
Be as mad at me as you want. I stand by what I said.
yes, ok, you win
She was being unreasonable on multiple counts and if you look at the replies you will see that I made almost the exact point in your edit, but you aren't helping to herd someone back into reality by ascribing all of this other stuff to them that might be true but most likely isn't. When someone else is going off the rails, that is all the more reason to try to be grounded about things.
She was being ableist because people didn't like some shitty movie. Let's keep things in perspective.
I actually agree with you again. It may be too late for that but maybe you can argue that case instead.
In this case? I agree that it's totally too late, I just wanted to mention it for your future reference since you, like myself, will get into many more arguments with weird people about media.
I'm not a huge fan of Anthony Fantano, but I had some of his videos on in the background the other day and he has a couple from when he went on the Twitch stream of the "#1 Drake Stan" at the latter's invitation in order to discuss his negative-to-lukewarm ratings of recent Drake albums. I thought Fantano did an excellent job of not doing the "calmly DESTROYS crying Drake FANBOY with LOGIC" thing but treating him as a human being and trying to come to some kind of an understanding (though there was some ribbing and I'd be lying if I claimed I didn't enjoy that). If you're ever likewise looking for background noise with not the highest bar of quality, here's the first one. I've got a friend who is kind of like he was here, so I appreciated it.
Thanks for the link.
That’s generally fair if we’re talking about a Marvel or Pixar movie. But this is a historical drama on real events.
Except most movies are propaganda, there is atleast one military commisar in disney making them stickto ideological ortodoxy.
Boyond that narrative art reflects the general mood of a culture.
See my other posts in the recen thread about movie critisism. Its not about being moralist, i can both think that piers anthony is a pedofile and think that his girl and pony books are very creative and have cool concepts. Its about calling out literal reactionary propaganda.
People come here to complain about stupid capitalist propaganda in movies because this is the commie website and we have literally nowhere else to do it. I don't care what slop anyone likes really but if someone tries to tell me the slop is good actually then I'm probably gonna say
How on earth did you get all this from that one single sentence?
In my language we have a saying that translates into something like "seeing ghosts in the light of day", and I think that applies here.
You can call it a presumption or "seeing ghosts in the light of day" but what followed after didn't exactly shoot down that presumption.
EDIT: What am I supposed to have assumed from the "just joking, unless" declaration that everyone on Hexbear (but that person of course) is "baby brained" about movies that was contextually in a thread that started because someone dared to dislike a Nolan movie?
You could have just let it go. That is an actual option.
You could have posted pretty much anything but yet another "you are obsessed/deluded/unhinged/seeing things" remark if you really wanted to persuade me of anything. I can't think of many scenarios where those win anyone over, even if they might feel good for you to say.
So much for "just letting it go" considering that's what you came here to do.