Also I don't understand why people admire the vikings they literally just murdered and enslaved a bunch of people that was their interaction with the rest of Europe. The norse did more peaceful settler colonialism but viking exclusively refers to murderous thieves
That was also the Rest of Europe's interaction with Europe. The Saxons were guilty of most of the same practices as the Vikings (and, indeed, had done the same thing as the Great Heathen Army 300 years before). The Franks were real pieces of work, the Carolingian Empire committing war crimes on a scale the Norse could barely imagine, and then blaming them for their decline and not the massive Civil Wars. And then we have the Gothic Wars, which did more to usher in Late Antiquity than Attila could have dreamed.
Also I don't understand why people admire the vikings they literally just murdered and enslaved a bunch of people that was their interaction with the rest of Europe. The norse did more peaceful settler colonialism but viking exclusively refers to murderous thieves
That was also the Rest of Europe's interaction with Europe. The Saxons were guilty of most of the same practices as the Vikings (and, indeed, had done the same thing as the Great Heathen Army 300 years before). The Franks were real pieces of work, the Carolingian Empire committing war crimes on a scale the Norse could barely imagine, and then blaming them for their decline and not the massive Civil Wars. And then we have the Gothic Wars, which did more to usher in Late Antiquity than Attila could have dreamed.
More evidence that the Moors shouldn't have stopped at Tours.
Dont forget the "holy" catholic crusaders who massacred non christians and also byzantines too!
I think for me its mostly the boats. They had some damn nice looking boats, you gotta admit.
fair point they were good at boats