Just for reference, this entire argument is as incorrect as it is disingenuous. Setting aside that animal agriculture requires far more land to grow crops (and thus more land plowed) to feed the animals before you eat them than just eating the crops, the number of animals killed on roadways is about 100 times higher and the number directly killed for consumption as part of animal agriculture is more like 10,000 times as many.
Plowing a field is loud and slow, and the actual act of turning over the ground disturbs the ground a lot which can be detected several meters away. Animals are not dumb, most will run away. The majority of animals that would die as a result of plowing a field will be ones escaping that get picked off by birds of prey.
The biggest human caused problems with plowing that contribute to animal deaths are from starting around the edges of a field and circling your way inward as most small animals will instinctively run into the grass rather than across the wide open already plowed area, in order to avoid those birds of prey. Simply avoiding this pattern or even using no-till planting can further reduce unnecessary animal deaths by providing an escape route.
Source: my neighbour is a retired agronomy professor
This is such an infuriating take. Maybe a monoculture, intensive agricultural method that depletes the soil and requires annual tilling is wrong too, you larping piece of shit. Americans will get hives if the words biodiversity or agroecology are mentioned in their presence, ffs. God forbid farming isn't done in your fucked up, green revolution way.
I wasnt addressing you personally, I'm so sorry about that, I meant no offense! I meant to talk to the character in the video who feels oh so smart for owning the vegan by assuming a vegan diet has to be done through intensive agriculture.
i seem to remember this show had a boomer-ass takedown of veganism and the vegan activists were totally owned by the most babybrain carnist cope
yup
CW: talking about animal death
Just for reference, this entire argument is as incorrect as it is disingenuous. Setting aside that animal agriculture requires far more land to grow crops (and thus more land plowed) to feed the animals before you eat them than just eating the crops, the number of animals killed on roadways is about 100 times higher and the number directly killed for consumption as part of animal agriculture is more like 10,000 times as many.
Plowing a field is loud and slow, and the actual act of turning over the ground disturbs the ground a lot which can be detected several meters away. Animals are not dumb, most will run away. The majority of animals that would die as a result of plowing a field will be ones escaping that get picked off by birds of prey.
The biggest human caused problems with plowing that contribute to animal deaths are from starting around the edges of a field and circling your way inward as most small animals will instinctively run into the grass rather than across the wide open already plowed area, in order to avoid those birds of prey. Simply avoiding this pattern or even using no-till planting can further reduce unnecessary animal deaths by providing an escape route.
Source: my neighbour is a retired agronomy professor
Actually, I only buy the cutest puppies at my uncle's ethical dog farm.
cows just get food through osmosis, it's the vegans that are at fault for the amazon being deforested actually
oh wait https://dialogue.earth/en/forests/58442-how-cattle-ranching-became-the-biggest-deforestation-driver-in-the-amazon/
This is such an infuriating take. Maybe a monoculture, intensive agricultural method that depletes the soil and requires annual tilling is wrong too, you larping piece of shit. Americans will get hives if the words biodiversity or agroecology are mentioned in their presence, ffs. God forbid farming isn't done in your fucked up, green revolution way.
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I wasnt addressing you personally, I'm so sorry about that, I meant no offense! I meant to talk to the character in the video who feels oh so smart for owning the vegan by assuming a vegan diet has to be done through intensive agriculture.
i was hoping that was the case, but getting jumped on here for being a vegan isnt an uncommon thing
sorry for assuming the worst