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  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Yes on nuclear family and cisheteronormatovity. Those are bullshit. Monogamy is based tho (not the lifelong married at 15 sweethearts tho) , but it shouldn't be the only option

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        My issue with it is the same. In general I'm not sure I buy codependency as a concept. I think people who are bad at monogamy tend to be bad at any type of relationships, cause it's not so much about the form, as much as it's about the people, but non monogamy (or at least the communities I've had experience with) tends to allow more ways for them to hide their issues

        • Chapo_Trap_Horse [none/use name]
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          In strong relationships you should get to occasionally fuck other people while your partner jills off to it. Because adventure is hot. It's that simple.

          Monogamy and the inevitably resulting jealousy are bourgeois metaphors for property ownership.

          I agree though that serial cheaters just suck at being close in a relationship.

          • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Monogamy and the inevitably resulting jealousy are bourgeois metaphors for property ownership.

            I kinda disagree here. Both monogamy and jealousy have been around long before property ownership and the bourgeois and will be around long after theyre gone.

            • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Lol, have you tried non-monogamy? Of course there is jealousy. And tons of drama. And all the difficult conversations about feelings and intentions and how the other interpreted them. And dont give me that compersion bullshit, cause its bullshit.

              • seksmisja [none/use name]
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                monogamy and jealousy exist in the animal world as well, some people on here have some very utopian view that everything "bad" comes from "property ownership". I'm gonna be perfectly honest and I just feel some people are inherently selfish and just think about themselves. Relationships are a two way street and you have to make sacrifices for each other. If my partner came to me with this non-monogamy stuff, I would just tell them to fuck off and go on their way, not interested in it. If that's your thing, that's fine, but for some people, myself included, I don't want it.

                • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  Some of them are also probably very young, and want to see everything through this enlightened bong-rip leftist utopian lens... Yah, me too.

                  • seksmisja [none/use name]
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                    Oh sorry, I think you interpreted what I was saying as that there is no jealousy in non-monogamy, I was saying the opposite. People get jealous, with me personally, I hate sex without intimacy and a relationship. It makes me angry and depressed. For me adventure is doing something new or going somewhere into the wilderness.

                    • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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                      4 years ago

                      Sorry, my bad.

                      For me adventure is doing something new or going somewhere into the wilderness.

                      Same really. I dont really find anything adventurous in sleeping with new people for the sake of it. IDK, perhaps Im demi or just a horny ace or something.