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  • seksmisja [none/use name]
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    I will confidently assert that 99% of parents are in some way abusive to their children, trying their best or not.

    This is such a hyperbolic statement that I can't even fathom how to approach it. And you really think tearing kids away from their parents is not abusive?

    • 389aaa [it/its]
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      Not inherently, no. I can tell you from experience that my childhood would've been a LOT better if someone had torn me away from my mother like ASAP.

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        Ya I can tell you were fucked up in your childhood if you think taking children away from their parents who are in good houses does nothing bad to a childs mental well being. Literally psychopath mentality.

        • 389aaa [it/its]
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          I said not inherently, try reading next time. Obviously it can be and would be in a good number of cases.

          • seksmisja [none/use name]
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            You said that in your belief, 99% of parents were abusive and you think children should be removed from abusive homes, it's not that hard to put the two together and know what you want to do.

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              In retrospect, I suppose I didn't communicate very well there. I was voicing my support for the OP, in response to your rather hyperbolic comment on the matter. I guess I made my equally hyperbolic in response, which was unwise.

              I'm not some kind of idealist who thinks that we could magically solve all the problems by just magically taking all the children away from their parents. Realistically, it'd have to be a centuries long transition to the style of child-raising the OP described, though I would like it if government services that separate children from above-average-level-of-abusive parents were like, ten times more efficient and speedy.

              • seksmisja [none/use name]
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                My apologies if I was rude as well, I grew up on the old forums/chans were everyone forms friendships by being extremely mean to each other. I suppose that my general opposition to it is that morality is a very personal thing, so who is to say that what some "expert" wants is what I feel is best for my child. A universal agreement on child rearing would never be met, even amongst experts. Likewise, I want to raise my child in my culture, in this hypothetical community based rearing, you would have to give up your cultural practices and way of thinking for some kind of shapeless identity

                • Amorphous [any]
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                  so who is to say that what some “expert” wants is what I feel is best for my child

                  Who's to say that what you "feel" is best for your child actually is?

                  A child is not personal property, it is not a thing that you can (or rather, should be allowed to) make your own decisions about if you want. You shouldn't be allowed to make the decision not to vaccinate your child, for example, or to make the decision to mutilate them for religious or cosmetic reasons. That's a whole ass human there, not an extension of yourself. What is best for them is what ultimately matters, not what the person who created them thinks.

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                    Children and people are not property of a the government either. It's called free will, everyone can raise their children the way you want. It's some lunacy in here where people want the government and nameless people to take away their families for the "greater good"