I am vegan. These threads always genuinely upset me because I see so many supposed comrades making the exact same arguments justifying carnism that we constantly lampoon liberals for making to justify capitalism and even genocide.
At this point, I am no longer surprised by the kind of arguments liberals make that are so openly and obviously self-serving but at the same time totally lacking self-awareness. But it is still shocking to me when communists who have seen through so many other lies do the exact same shit. I know we can't expect "purity" and everyone is going to disagree with anyone else on something, but to me, this is akin to finding a group of people who are righteously anti-racist, anti-capitalist, stand up for the rights of BIPOC, and organize to feed homeless people but then turn out to be massive TERFs who would be happy if I were murdered. I just can't. It absolutely wrecks any sense of solidarity I had.
I'm slightly sympathetic, because carnism brainworms are deeply ingrained in us all from birth. I used to eat meat, I used to have some chuddy opinions on veganism. I've been there. most vegans have been there, but the way "leftists" just regurgitate this shit tries my patience.
I think that deep down it comes from a place of knowing vegans are right, and trying to avoid agreeing because that means you're an active participant in a horrible crime, and have been your entire life.
I am vegan. These threads always genuinely upset me because I see so many supposed comrades making the exact same arguments justifying carnism that we constantly lampoon liberals for making to justify capitalism and even genocide.
At this point, I am no longer surprised by the kind of arguments liberals make that are so openly and obviously self-serving but at the same time totally lacking self-awareness. But it is still shocking to me when communists who have seen through so many other lies do the exact same shit. I know we can't expect "purity" and everyone is going to disagree with anyone else on something, but to me, this is akin to finding a group of people who are righteously anti-racist, anti-capitalist, stand up for the rights of BIPOC, and organize to feed homeless people but then turn out to be massive TERFs who would be happy if I were murdered. I just can't. It absolutely wrecks any sense of solidarity I had.
Definitely felt the same. A lot of the same arguments you’d see on the front page of reddit when veganism gets mentioned.
I'm slightly sympathetic, because carnism brainworms are deeply ingrained in us all from birth. I used to eat meat, I used to have some chuddy opinions on veganism. I've been there. most vegans have been there, but the way "leftists" just regurgitate this shit tries my patience.
I think that deep down it comes from a place of knowing vegans are right, and trying to avoid agreeing because that means you're an active participant in a horrible crime, and have been your entire life.